Talk:Magnate

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Was it so in Sweden? In Poland the magnate was not a title but rather a position. [[User:Halibutt|Halibutt]] 13:24, Nov 22, 2004 (UTC)

The word Mogul redirects here but is not mentioned at all

And it has it's own unique history as it is derived from the word Mongol in reference to the Mughal emperors who descended from the Mongol emperor Gengis Khan. BillyTFried (talk) 19:18, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Oligarch

Magnate equals Oligarch. 217.50.174.255 (talk) 13:00, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

More citations needed; especially for England

Hi, y'all!! This article contains too few references for the importance of this topic:

• especially for England, as magnates (e.g., Percies, Nevilles, the cadet branches of the Plantagenet dynasty (York & Lancaster) & the Lord Warden of the Marches#For England) were reponsible for much of the trouble in Northern England during the Middle Ages (e.g. Anglo-Scottish Wars, Wars of the Roses). The single reference for England is unverifable, as it links to a Google book page with no preview.
• There is a lone sentence to a Gaelic magnate within the England section which is missing a citation. If this refers to Ireland or Scotland, it should placed in the appropriate section.
• There should be a new section to cover the Scottish magnates (e.g., Douglases, Argylls, & the Lord Warden of the Marches#For Scotland).
• I can't comment on magnates in Ireland; the Douglases were involved in the Plantation of Ulster & probably there were some in The Pale under the Anglo-Normans & the other Plantations of Ireland.
• According to the description given in the lead, the Bishop of Durham and his County Palatine should also be included.

--AnalyticalHistoricalHobbyist (talk) 12:37, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

We must remove non Western Christian countries

In the case of England, Sweden and Hungary the magnate Latin word was used exactly due to the official status of Latin language in that countries in the past. And also the magnate word was adopted to their native languages later. Otherwise, we can list all countries and all languages of planet Earth, because all countries had some society and top elite class which ruled that nations. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Csataelőkészítő (talk • contribs) 12:52, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

A man

A magnate is a man from the higher nobility, a man who belongs to the high office-holders, or a man in a high social position, by birth, wealth or other qualities in Western Christian countries since the medieval period.

Surely in the 21st century a person holding any of these positions need not be male? At the very least, in the U.S., owners/executives of major corporations are sometimes referred to as "magnates". -- Avocado (talk) 11:55, 18 February 2026 (UTC)

This artice is about a historical term, and in these old patriarchal times all magnates were men. The article "Business magnate" does use the term "person", because it is about modern times. --Altenmann >talk 16:23, 18 February 2026 (UTC)

In which case it would be more appropriate and far clearer to say "A magnate was a man...". Never mind, I see you just fixed that. Thank you! -- Avocado (talk) 23:23, 18 February 2026 (UTC)