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Edit reversion on the exact role of Robert Bellarmine

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An edit of mine was partially reverted by Fountains of Bryn Mawr for the following reason: "A little too WP:JARGON and not according to sources".

As to jargon, that may be true.

What I did however was simply paste words from the Bellarmine article into the Valerio article: "In 1616, on the orders of Paul V, Bellarmine summoned Galileo, notified him of a forthcoming decree of the Congregation of the Index condemning the Copernican doctrine of the mobility of the Earth and the immobility of the Sun, and ordered him to abandon it." (Reference to Blackwell, 1991, p. 126, which I unfortunately omitted.)

This wording is much closer to the truth. On this point Wikipedia is a better source than O'Connor and Robertson (witness their questionable phrase "chief theologian of the Roman Catholic Church", not to mention their "Bellarmine [...] issued a decree"). I trust O'Connor and Robertson when they discuss mathematical contributions, but not on a point like this one.

JmCor (talk) 04:20, 3 October 2014 (UTC)Reply

The main reason for my partial revert and rewrite was jargon in all versions (including the previous which I think was written by me). O'Connor/Robertson and Blackwell seem to be saying the same thing, a decree was issued on some exact date and Galileo was called on the carpet on some unspecified date. I think we should reword it to a "called on the carpet" version, makes more sense to the average reader. Fountains of Bryn Mawr (talk) 00:16, 4 October 2014 (UTC)Reply
Thank you. JmCor (talk) 03:44, 4 October 2014 (UTC)Reply