Talk:Low-Income Housing Tax Credit

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Entire sections have no citations

This article seems very well written and informative, but MOST sections have NO REFERENCES AT ALL.

While most of the info in this article likely has been appropriately sourced from the listed references, it would be nice to have some idea (maybe at the end of each paragraph) WHERE the information comes from. This would help in allowing people to update dated statements as laws and procedures change.

Thanks, Wikipedians!! Avatar317 (talk) 01:21, 21 January 2018 (UTC)Avatar317

Hello,

I recently tried to add citations from US Treasury, OPM, and Congress.gov to the Overview and Legislation impacting LIHTC sections. Curious why these were removed when I was providing credibility to sentences currently marked as "(citation needed)"?

Additionally, I would like to raise concerns over the President's Economic Recovery Advisory Board (PERAB) study from 2010. This study is 15 years outdated and when redirected to the source readers will find only two sentences on LIHTC without evidence to support its conclusion. Therefore, it is irresponsible for those conclusions to occur three times on this wiki page.

I am unable to post a link here but please read "The Role of Vouchers in the Low Income Housing Tax Credit Program" published by HUD in 2024. It concludes that research on the relationship between LIHTC and vouchers is limited therefore no reasonable nor evidence-backed conclusions can claim that vouchers are a more "cost-effective program to help low-income households" as this article currently claims.

Thank you for the attention to these citation issues from the other editors of this wiki page. Mjswaney (talk) 14:57, 3 March 2025 (UTC)

@Avatar317 Ms5678t (talk) 14:52, 7 March 2025 (UTC)

@Talk:Low-Income Housing Tax Credit. I would like to have a conversation about the validity of the President's Economic Recovery Advisory Board (PERAB) study which @Avatar317 has cited in three places on the page. My attempts to edit and replace with new updated sources have all been removed and met with Wikiban or wikiblock warnings by this same user who has not responded on this talk forum. Without a prompt response I will be using submitting my concerns to wikidisputes. Thank you. Ms5678t (talk) 19:39, 10 March 2025 (UTC)

As I've said in my edit summaries, you can find newer sources and post summaries of those, but just because you don't like the results of one study is not a valid justification to remove it. It is from an agency that is INDEPENDENT of HUD, so it shouldn't have the bias that all HUD studies will have which will try to justify/glorify the existence of HUD and their programs. ---Avatar317^(talk) 00:20, 11 March 2025 (UTC)

Thank you for your response.

My motivation to remove this study from the page is that I do not believe it meets the criteria of a well-sourced academic study to merit such a dominant presence on this wiki page. The entirety of the source material only reads: "The low-income housing credit encourages the construction, rehabilitation, and purchase of low income rental housing. Some experts suggest that other federal aid (like housing vouchers) would assist low-income households at a lower cost. Proponents of the credit argue that it encourages investment in rental properties in low-income areas and helps to revitalize those neighborhoods."

This source offers no evidence to support its conclusions. On any other wiki page, conclusions would be help to higher standards of reason than "some experts suggest".

Please remain objective in your editing on this page and do not continue to refute under subjective assumptions that "I do not like the study" or your own beliefs about widespread confirmation biases within a federal government agency. Ms5678t (talk) 13:32, 11 March 2025 (UTC)

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Ms5678t (talk) 15:23, 13 March 2025 (UTC).

Ms5678t, your request was removed from the list of Active Disagreements at Wikipedia:Third opinion because:

1. There are already three people involved in this discussion
2. There has not yet been enough discussion amongst the editors already involved.

If you still need more attention on this issue, may I suggest that you post an announcement on a relevant WikiProject, such as Wikipedia talk:WikiProject United States Government? Manuductive (talk) 05:31, 14 March 2025 (UTC)

Proposed new section: LIHTC's Role in Affordable Housing

Hello editors -

Thank you for the recent overhaul of this page. I believe it can be better improved with a dedicated section to how LIHTC works with other affordable housing programs. This would also be a better location for discussion of LIHTC and housing choice vouchers & removing this sentence from the overview section.

@Avatar317 this would be a better location to include your sentence "In 2010, the President's Economic Recovery Advisory Board (PERAB) noted that some experts believe that vouchers would more cost-effectively help low income households."

Thanks! Ms5678t (talk) 02:39, 25 March 2025 (UTC)

@Ms5678t: You haven't answered my question on your Talk page about whether you have a Conflict of Interest. WP:COI.

Do you work for or have any relation to companies or organizations which work in the affordable housing space? Or do you work for HUD or any other such agency? ---Avatar317^(talk) 23:25, 27 March 2025 (UTC)