Talk:Lostwave
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Fond My Mind has been discovered as "Feels like a wish"
[edit]Aye. So Fond My Mind (Brazilian song) was finally found and restored by William Pavia. I think we should add it. CsyeCokTheSolly (talk) 22:42, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
New article from The Guardian for Everyone Knows That
[edit]With the merger of the Everyone Knows That article into the Lostwave article, I think it might be notable to say that the Guardian has just put out an article on Everyone Knows That. This might be a good reason to rethink the merger. Pineappman (talk) 04:13, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
- Also a Dazed article and Unilad article. Chances are more sources will pick up on the search as more people join the subreddit. I do not know what other editors will think, however, we could rethink the merger if more sources (and they probably will) comment on this. Not0nshoree (talk) 15:11, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
- And also apparently the "fourth most visited site in Bosnia and Herzogovina," Klix.ba. Pineappman (talk) 15:52, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
- Oh, also I think you accidentally linked to the Guardian article again instead of the Dazed article. Pineappman (talk) 16:08, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
- Oh snap I did lol, my mistake. Not0nshoree (talk) 14:24, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Lol, it's alright. But still I think this is quite a few articles, maybe it really is worth rethinking the merger. This pageviews graph shows quite a close battle too. Pineappman (talk) 06:01, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oh snap I did lol, my mistake. Not0nshoree (talk) 14:24, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oh, also I think you accidentally linked to the Guardian article again instead of the Dazed article. Pineappman (talk) 16:08, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
Are other people working on merging EKT, or just me?
[edit]Ever since the decision to merge Everyone Knows That (Ulterior Motives) on the 24th (5 days ago at the time of writing this), I have been the only one who is working on the merger. Is anyone else working on this? Not0nshoree (talk) 15:16, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
- You might be the only one working on it, though it might now meet notability guidelines with the new coverage, so there has been discussion about a way to reverse the AfD outcome. AllTheUsernamesAreInUse (talk) 18:05, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
EKT article restored
[edit]Just a quick note that the Everyone Knows That (Ulterior Motives) article was restored due to new coverage FMSky (talk) 00:25, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
Hey Wikipedia contributors, could you add this song to the page
[edit]It is a "outsider music" song, here is the link to the fandom page with more information: https://lostwaves-finest.fandom.com/wiki/Curly_Toes Minecraft812 (talk) 12:18, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- There isn’t much sources online for it. Fandom itself is not a reliable source; it’s a website where users can easily vandalize and edit the content, which in some cases, can ruin the research. If per se a piece of info from a space encyclopedia on Fandom said: "The Sun is red", and it was put on Wikipedia as a source, the Fandom's page could be promptly changed to say "The Sun is blue", which in common sense, is not true, but will spark confusion with whether or not the source should be a citation. View Wikipedia:Citing Wikipedia for more information. Bennett1203 (talk) 03:12, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
"Somewhere in the Night"
[edit]Someone contacted me a few days ago, on an AOR account I used to maintain, about this song; it seems it's been searched for for about a year I think? Is it a notable example? I have no idea what it is unfortunately. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSTediJtsmg 2A01:E0A:1DC:FB50:C425:20A4:53D5:9122 (talk) 20:26, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
Can I ask why Ready N. Steady got removed as 'not lostwave'?
[edit]It fits the definition, and was arguably the longest running search for one dating back decades.
It feels like the only reason it was cut is because the article's recently been rewritten to basically credit Subways of Your Mind as the 'origin' of LostWave despite the fact there had been other lost mysterious song hunts prior(Ready N. Steady/Rock N Steady was easily the biggest, but there was also the Brazilian Mysterious Song and D.E.A.T.H.M.E.T.A.L.) 2604:3D09:1F7F:8B00:F5C6:8549:DAF3:8E06 (talk) 00:24, 17 August 2025 (UTC)
- Also Lostwave can clearly mean multiple things. Sometimes we have a full song, but no name or artist(Subways of Your Mind). Sometimes we have a name and artist, but no song(Ready N Steady). Sometimes we have a name and a song snippet, but not an artist or the full song(Everyone Knows It)
- That and Ready N Steady was a very long hunt dating back to the pre-internet era(similar to Cracks, another extremely long and famous hunt) 64.114.211.24 (talk) 01:07, 23 August 2025 (UTC)
- 1-Ready 'n' Steady was a lost media and not a lostwave. A lostwave must have a snippet or a full song attached to it, otherwise it's just...lost media ._.
- 2-It is during the research of TMMS that the term lostwave had been attached to unidentified songs, so it is the origin of lostwave. JackLostwave (talk) 08:43, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
Does D>E>A>T>H>M>E>T>A>L and Ready N. Steady count as lostwave
[edit]These seem to be removed without a discussion. I would argue lostwave doesn't have the restrictive definition of being completely, 100% unknown. For example, D>E>A>T>H>M>E>T>A>L, they only had a first name and last initial, and there was a large hunt to find the group. Additionally, Ready N. Steady was easily "of unknown origin" despite technically having some information. I will reinstate these into the article until a consensus is created. KyleSirTalksAlot (talk) 00:53, 15 October 2025 (UTC)
- DEATH METAL could technically be lostwave, but Ready 'n' Steady isn't. It was a lost media, a lostwave must have a snippet attached to it. JackLostwave (talk) 08:41, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
- Ready n Steady was literally the biggest song hunt prior to Mysterious Song and is still the longest in terms of total search time. The only hint being the name on a single iffy source where everything else had been found. 2604:3D09:1F81:1200:B0EC:C5AB:11C4:1E4D (talk) 06:23, 25 October 2025 (UTC)
- Big or not big, R'n'S is a lost media search, not a lostwave one. It's in the name : Lost media, the song was lost, we couldn't hear it.
- TMS, the song was not lost, but it was unidentified, which is the principle of lostwave.
- That's the difference between lost media and lostwave. ~2025-32107-89 (talk) 14:06, 8 November 2025 (UTC)
- For whatever reason, I wasn't connected to my account when I typed the answer. Well, my point still stands. JackLostwave (talk) 14:07, 8 November 2025 (UTC)
- Ready n Steady was literally the biggest song hunt prior to Mysterious Song and is still the longest in terms of total search time. The only hint being the name on a single iffy source where everything else had been found. 2604:3D09:1F81:1200:B0EC:C5AB:11C4:1E4D (talk) 06:23, 25 October 2025 (UTC)
A few thoughts on distinctions
[edit]I'm no expert on this topic, but I've gathered from the Wikipedia content and discussions that a few things may be causing disputes:
1. The distinction between the general phenomenon that we now term "lostwave," which presumably predates the term's being coined; and the notable mysteries in relatively recent times that have been explicitly labeled as "lostwave," and identified as landmarks in the history of "lostwave" as a consciously categorized field. In other words, the history of "lostwave," by that name, versus the "prehistory" of quests that were essentially lostwave but were not called that, and perhaps never grouped together as a field of research. 2. The distinction between lostwave and lost media—and, importantly, the gray areas or overlaps. From what I've read about "Ready n Steady," it seems that part of what happened was people weren't sure whether it was lost media (a real song that no one could unearth) or, in effect, a hoax (never a real song, just a dummy chart listing). But I imagine typical "lost media" consists of something that experts more or less know all about, but no copies survive, and I can see how the more mysterious case of RNS maybe bled over into a "lostwave" situation.
Again, I'm no expert, but perhaps the article could clarify these distinctions (relying on reputable sources, of course) and acknowledge that there are gray areas and cases llike RNS that may be sort of "lostwave-adjacent," if not archetypical lostwave. And I think it's important to keep the history of the term "lostwave" distinct from the longer history of things we'd now retroactively classify as "lostwave" (as I tried to do with my edit to "prominence"). Jcejhay (talk) 13:31, 1 February 2026 (UTC)
- "The distinction between lostwave and lost media"
- well, I was pondering removing the link to this article from the 'lost media' article, becaause what we've got here ("lostwave", & as epithets go, that's going to seem very old in a very short while, along with anything-wave!) isn't lost media, it's media for which the metadata has been (as it turns out, temporarily) mislaid.
- as the opening para states, in fact.
- while this is a fascinating & occasionally entertaining internet phenomenon, the cultural significance of the works concerned has to be in question; had these pieces of music attracted more attention when they were made, their details would not have been lost.
- but no, this is not lost media, & the link with the other articles is tenuous to say the least.
- duncanrmi (talk) duncanrmi (talk) 20:38, 18 May 2026 (UTC)