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Wikidata list of ongoing conflicts
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Inaccurate and tendentious categorisation of Israel-Hamas war
[edit]Grouping all of the wars Israel has been involved in since 1948 as one conflict is self-evidently non-factual, tendentious and deliberately intended to inflate the total casualty count (which itself is highly dubious; hundreds of thousands!? Add up the casualties in the 1948, 1956, 1967, 1973, 1982 and then other conflicts does not come close to 300,000). The total Arab casualties in all of the wars of the Arab-Israeli conflict in the Arab-Israeli conflict article is around 90,000. If you're actually saying Israel is a "belligerent in the Yemeni civil war", and then adding all of the deaths from that conflict (given Israel has not struck back at all and is not at war with Yemen or Houthis, and has not caused any deaths in Yemen) is so obviously biased, as is calling Israel a "belligerent" in what are, in fact, unlawful terror attacks by a non-state actor. I don't know how to do a signature here so sorry User:Idontknowhowtodothissorry -- 2 May 2024 2a02:6b6d:1338:0:fd31:8c17:3cf2:3a56
Double Counting of Casualties in Israel Palestine Conflict--Casualty Rate Should Read 165,000 (110,000-210,000)
[edit]The table links to a source that includes in its casualty list deaths from the Israel Palestine conflict, but to get the final number the editors added those to the previous number thus double counting them. What's more, the source itself already double counts casualties because it includes dead from the 1947-1949 war twice.
But, on top of this, the source is confusing but is incorrectly cited. It lists conflicts with parties to them, not the casualties caused by them. Comparing the source to the pages for each of the conflicts in question produces much smaller estimates. For example, read incorrectly, the linked source suggests that some ~58,000 (60,000 across conflicts) people have died in wars between Israel and Lebanon, when even the highest Lebanese estimates are 20,000. Estimates range from 13,000-15,000 at the lower end, and 18,000-34,000 at the higher end (and that's with double counting in civilian and combatant casualties as it is !). This means that EVEN WITH THE SOURCES IN QUESTION, THE CASUALTY RATE OF THE CONFLICT IS AT MINIMUM 24,000 SMALLER, and up to 45,000!.
When we account for the double counting, this results in a reduction of 14,000-27,000--so the numbers are 38,000-72,000 smaller.
Adding up the casualty estimates provided on the wikipedia pages for each conflict, before adding the Israel-Palestine numbers gets us a range of 57-115. The Israel Palestine conflict page lists 53-65. Except, more than half of these are already included in the previous estimate. HOWEVER, even if we do not account for this we get a range of 110-168,000. Now if we add the recent Gaza war-which, again would be double counting in part--we would add 43,000.
This means that even if we triple count Palestinian casualties listed on the wikipedia pages, our total rises to 153,--210,000--and EVEN THAT includes deaths not caused by Israel, double counts many victims, counts missing as dead, and so on.
Even if we add Israelis killed in terrorism and riots (5-15,000 depending on how we count), Palestinians killed in intra-Palestinian violence (2000), The war of the camps between Lebanon and the PLO (4500--6500) and deaths in Black September between Jordan and Palestine (4000 in official estimates, but Arafat claims 15,000 Palestinians killed by Jordan, which would put the total at 16,000) we would get 15-40,000 more deaths and that would put our total at 168-250,000.
While the latter estimate is larger than the one listed on the page, this one includes 25,000 Palestinians killed by Lebanese, Jordanian, and Palestinian forces, it double counts a portion of Israeli terror victims (soldiers who died in terror attacks are listed in both war and civilian casualty estimates, and thus over state the estimates), while taking the higher estimate of those dead--thus increasing the estimate by up to 30,000.
It double counts the dead prior to 1948, it double counts the dead in the 47-49 war, it triple counts Palestinian casualties in wars since the first intifada, it counts all those who have died in Lebanese wars, even those who were not killed by Israel (indeed including even those who died in wars before Israel even got involved!), it takes the higher estimates of dead in every conflict, even where US, & Israel estimates VASTLY lower, UN estimates are much lower, and independent Arab state & Human Rights organization estimates are somewhat lower.
The double and triple counting adds 35,000-80,000 deaths. Taking the highest estimates adds 57,000.
Notably, adding together the total casualties from more reliable sources gets us 122,000 before the recent war, and then 43,000 for the recent war, bringing us to 165,000!
Notice, this brings us a very similar estimate to taking the lower estimate from all the respective wikipedia pages for each of the episodes of the Israel Palestine conflict.
Since independent sourcing leads to a similar estimate to the one produced by using other wikipedia sources at the lower end, this is a good indicator it is of reliability, especially since getting the higher estimates requires that up to 14% (35/250) - 40% (80/193) of the casualties attributed are Palestinians, Lebanese, Syrians and Jordanians killed by other Palestinians, Lebanese, Syrians, and Jordanians, and it requires taking the higher estimate in every case, which accounts for 23% (57/250) -- 50% (58/115) of the deaths. If 55% of a casualty estimate ((57+80)/250) depends on attributing deaths of people killed by other states, and taking the higher estimate of casualties in every single case, chances are the estimate is off!
Thus, the page here: 1. incorrectly cites a source 2. misrepresents that sources claims 3. cites a source which itself engages in double counting and unclear attribution 4. does not line up with the other wikipedia pages' conflict estimates or those of their sources *EVEN AT THEIR HIGHER END* 5. to be true requires an estimate that requires 14-40% of the deaths be those caused by other states, and 23-50% of the casualty estimates are due to taking the higher range of each estimate, with a combined effect that 55% of casualties are tendentiously attributed 6. does not line up with independent sourcing
Meanwhile, another estimate (165,000), which: 1. Uses independent sources 2. Minimizes double counting 3. Only attributes deaths caused by Israel 4. Lines up with the lower estimates of the relevant wikipedia pages and their sources 5. Is self consistent 6. Strikes a moderate balance between the estimates of US, Israel, UN, Arab League, Hamas, PLO, Hezbollah, Jordan, Egypt, Syria, academics and so on 7. Lines up with the cited source for this wikipedia page *IF* considerations are taken to interpret it correctly (which would give us a base of 114-159,000, to which we would add the 43,000 of the recent war, giving us 157,000--210,000
Thus, the estimate of 165,000 lines up with the: 1. Other wikipedia pages 2. Their sources 3. Independent sources 4. The *VERY SOURCE USED FOR THIS PAGE* if properly interpreted
THUS EVEN BY THE STANDARDS OF THE SOURCES CITED THE ESTIMATE GIVEN ON THE PAGE IS INFLATED BY 50%! A FULL THIRD OF THE CASUALTIES LISTED ARE IMPROPERLY ATTRIBUTED OR COMPLETELY FABRICATED !
This does not require using Israeli or US estimates (which are *lower* than the 165,000 estimate!). In fact, it holds even if we use the estimates of Arab states (the highest ones--which would produce at the highest 210,000 as above), human rights organizations (the second highest), or scholarly academic sources (those in the median range).
US and Israeli sources would give us a total estimate somewhere near 100-120,000
UN, Human Rights organization and Academic sources give us our middle range of 165,000.
The highest estimates give us a total of 210,000.
Notice further that the middle range estimate of 165,000 is roughly the mean of the lower, medium, and high estimates. This is further indication of its validity since it balances opposed viewpoints and expertises.
Thus, the casualty range for the Israel Palestine conflict should--to be charitable to all the different perspectives and viewpoints--read something like:
Deaths:
165,000 (110,000--210,000)
Not the current 230-241,000 which is false even on its own terms!
Source used by article [1]
Other sources: [2]
I made a table of the estimates given in the source linked for this page, and added below it the estimates given by other wikipedia pages:
[10] -- 20:14, 24 September 2024 38.130.70.73
References
- ↑ https://www.systemicpeace.org/warlist/warlist.htm
- ↑ https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/total-casualties-arab-israeli-conflict
- ↑ https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/comprehensive-listing-of-terrorism-victims-in-israel
- ↑ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six-Day_War
- ↑ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_Attrition
- ↑ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Arab%E2%80%93Israeli_War
- ↑ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli%E2%80%93Palestinian_conflict
- ↑ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yom_Kippur_War
- ↑ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli%E2%80%93Lebanese_conflict
- ↑ https://olive-merralee-23.tiiny.site/
Change the minimum estimate of those killed in the conflict in Ukraine to 120,000+
[edit]At the moment, according to the minimally recorded obituaries on both sides, the number of deaths should exceed 120 thousand people; the information in the article is outdated: 1) 54,000+ dead on the Russian side https://en.zona.media/article/2022/05/11/casualties_eng 2) 46,000+ dead on the Ukrainian side https://ualosses.org/ 3) 10,000+ civilian deaths https://ukraine.un.org/en/253322-civilian-deaths-ukraine-war-top-10000-un-says 4) there is no point in proving the number of deaths before a full-scale war, I think these numbers are already in the public domain: approximately 14,000 people
You have some 100,000 victims listed, it can no longer be such a low estimate, I ask you to remove this
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Not done: it's not clear what changes you want made. Please detail the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Day Creature (talk) 17:26, 11 May 2026 (UTC)
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Could we add a new column showing how long the conflict has lasted (using the oldest conflict in the row as the start)
Ex. Arab-Israeli Conflict = 77 years, 11 months, and 27 days
Ex. Somali Civil War = 45 years (1981) 38 years (1988) 35 years (1991)
Ex. Kurdish Nationalist Conflicts = 103 years
Sincerely: Mr Pork Chop 1 (talk) 16:03, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
Not done: This seems unnecessary, as the table already lists the year each conflict started. Day Creature (talk) 17:10, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
- I see it now, thank you ;) Mr Pork Chop 1 (talk) 11:34, 13 May 2026 (UTC)
Are Deaths by country 2025 happening. even by estimates?
[edit]I follow this list in academics to loosely monitor interventions and influence, please. ~2026-30865-42 (talk) 00:28, 23 May 2026 (UTC)
- I will try to make it happen as soon as possible. Whitesin21 (talk) 18:59, 17 June 2026 (UTC)
Original research again
[edit]@Whitesin21: please provide specific, detailed instructions as to how every siongle figure supposedly referenced has been obtained. I require unique instructions for every conflict, including any calculations made. FDW777 (talk) 18:53, 17 June 2026 (UTC)
- Feel free to see the archive 13# with the exact same question answered multiple times and please stop vandalising the page by removing useful sources, instead, try to help this page by providing extra material, thank you, if you want, I can answer it again, but the answer is already archived for you to see. Whitesin21 (talk) 18:55, 17 June 2026 (UTC)
- I refer you to the RFC. The concerns were not addressed, and in the subsequent recommended discussion you repeatedly stonewalled, as you are doing now. I will retiterate: I cannot see how a single figure you claim is referenced by ACLED is actaully referenced, so please provide full, unique instructions for every single conflict. You are the one claiming they are referenced, so it is up to you to explain how the figures are obtained. FDW777 (talk) 18:59, 17 June 2026 (UTC)
- In the archive 13# you literally asked the exact same thing, multiple times and even tried to change subject by asking the same question in a different discussion, I never stonewalled and gave clear answers, months passed and the whole discussion was archived for obvious reasons, every single figure referenced by ACLED is actually backed by its database with every conflict factor listed like I already said, I did explain to you how these figures are obtained by ACLED and the methodology behind it is available for you to read. ACLED uses the same pattern and methodology for each conflict, its not a different approach. Whitesin21 (talk) 19:03, 17 June 2026 (UTC)
- I asked, and you refused to answer. I do not accept generic answers, I want specific answers including calculations. If you fail to provide this, the only conclusion that can be drawn is that by actually answering the question you will prove beyond all doubt that you are interpeting the data, in violation of policy. FDW777 (talk) 19:05, 17 June 2026 (UTC)
- I actually already answered it in the archive 13# and the discussion was closed because it was answered, what are you even trying to do here is again try to create the same discussion over and over again, simply because you fail to accept ACLEDs methodology, violating the policy and vandalising this page, if you fail to accept these specific steps for these figures, given by ACLED, the conclusion is that you are trying to mess this page up. Whitesin21 (talk) 19:07, 17 June 2026 (UTC)
- Here is everything you need to read again. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_ongoing_armed_conflicts/Archive_13#Post-Rfc_information_requested Whitesin21 (talk) 19:11, 17 June 2026 (UTC)
- I would also like to point out the fact that ACLED fatality totals are not usually a simple calculation that can be reconstructed from a headline number without access to the underlying dataset and methodology. ACLED records fatalities event-by-event, and their published totals are aggregates of many coded events. There can be events with estimated fatalities, according to ACLED coding rules and updates to past events, so for Cameroon, the database filters events matching the report criteria and sums the fatality field across those events. Without the event-level data used to produce the figure, you cannot independently reproduce the exact number, this is why the numbers are correct. By Wikipedia policy angle, I am not required to perform original analysis to prove that a reliable source is correct, ACLED is reliable in fact and it states a figure and the article cites ACLED for that figure, its not my duty to reverse-engineer ACLED's database or reproduce the source's internal calculations, we can only verify it with the cited source. Your argument is illogical because I am not here to make my own calculations or methodological decisions, that would original research. Whitesin21 (talk) 12:20, 18 June 2026 (UTC)
- I actually already answered it in the archive 13# and the discussion was closed because it was answered, what are you even trying to do here is again try to create the same discussion over and over again, simply because you fail to accept ACLEDs methodology, violating the policy and vandalising this page, if you fail to accept these specific steps for these figures, given by ACLED, the conclusion is that you are trying to mess this page up. Whitesin21 (talk) 19:07, 17 June 2026 (UTC)
- I asked, and you refused to answer. I do not accept generic answers, I want specific answers including calculations. If you fail to provide this, the only conclusion that can be drawn is that by actually answering the question you will prove beyond all doubt that you are interpeting the data, in violation of policy. FDW777 (talk) 19:05, 17 June 2026 (UTC)
- In the archive 13# you literally asked the exact same thing, multiple times and even tried to change subject by asking the same question in a different discussion, I never stonewalled and gave clear answers, months passed and the whole discussion was archived for obvious reasons, every single figure referenced by ACLED is actually backed by its database with every conflict factor listed like I already said, I did explain to you how these figures are obtained by ACLED and the methodology behind it is available for you to read. ACLED uses the same pattern and methodology for each conflict, its not a different approach. Whitesin21 (talk) 19:03, 17 June 2026 (UTC)
- Let's start with the "Cameroonian conflicts" entry, that you have already failed to address at least twice. How are the figures of 1,826 and 873 obtained? FDW777 (talk) 19:02, 17 June 2026 (UTC)
- I never failed to address it actually, the answer is the same as in the archived discussion and it still remains the same, each conflict is being approached with the same metholodogy in mind, you're clearly unable to understand how ACLED database works and you are free to search it up for yourself. Whitesin21 (talk) 19:04, 17 June 2026 (UTC)
- Please provide tne steps needed, including any calculations. FDW777 (talk) 19:05, 17 June 2026 (UTC)
- Please see archive discussion 13#, you want me to do it for you? Whitesin21 (talk) 19:08, 17 June 2026 (UTC)
- Where? Please provide a diff of your reply with the steps needed including calculations? Your failure to even provide the steps needed for a single conflict is stonewalling. FDW777 (talk) 19:09, 17 June 2026 (UTC)
- Here is everything you need to read again, absolutely zero stonewalling, your failure to even understand how ACLED works or try to read the methodology behind its database is proof that you are trying to vandalise this page. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_ongoing_armed_conflicts/Archive_13#Post-Rfc_information_requested Whitesin21 (talk) 19:12, 17 June 2026 (UTC)
- That's not a diff. I'll give you two diffs, they are 09:19, 22 December 2025 and 14:07, 4 March 2026, which are both posts by me that are the only use of "Cameroon" in the entire archive. So I ask once again, with the added rather important caveat of since this article has four different conflicts involving Cameroon listed ("Islamist insurgencies in the Maghreb/Sahel", "Civil conflicts in Nigeria", "Cameroonian conflicts" and "Central African Republic Civil War"), how have you assigned the figures from ACLED (which only list by country, not by conflict) to a specific conflict involving Cameroon? Am I going to get another "it's conplicated" evasion? FDW777 (talk) 19:16, 17 June 2026 (UTC)
- You are not getting any evasion actually, Cameroon is the only country experiencing this conflict and ACLED is providing these figures by the factors that are part of this exact conflict, exactly how I explained it to you the last time we had this discussion, every conflict follows the exact steps, there are no figures listed twice or more in different conflicts, the factors for every conflict are the same, they're not listed by country, each conflict has specific factors and these figures are taken by the database. The database gives these numbers through the same steps, I already explained it, again, the methodology is simple and its free for everyone to read it. Whitesin21 (talk) 20:32, 17 June 2026 (UTC)
- Event level figures give us exactly this opportunity to not mix different conflicts, ACLED provides event level figures, which means that factors that are the same for every conflict, provide us with the correct numbers, this is how the database works, as I already said. Whitesin21 (talk) 20:43, 17 June 2026 (UTC)
- To add more to this, because maybe I am not being clear enough, ACLED records violence at the event level. Every event has a date, location, actors involved, Boko Haram or Ambazonian separatists for exampe, event type, notes, and a fatality figure. Fatalities are attached to individual events, not to countries as a whole, this is why its impossible to have wrong numbers or being counted twice. Therefore, if you want fatalities for a specific conflict in Cameroon, you must identify the relevant events and sum their fatalities, this is how the database works, it records the actors involved, it classifies events using actor interactions and conflict categories that can isolate insurgent activity, terrorist activity, and other forms of violence and this is how it filters events by actors, geography, and event characteristics and then it aggregates the fatalities from those filtered events to produce conflict-specific totals. Whitesin21 (talk) 21:58, 17 June 2026 (UTC)
- Event level figures give us exactly this opportunity to not mix different conflicts, ACLED provides event level figures, which means that factors that are the same for every conflict, provide us with the correct numbers, this is how the database works, as I already said. Whitesin21 (talk) 20:43, 17 June 2026 (UTC)
- You are not getting any evasion actually, Cameroon is the only country experiencing this conflict and ACLED is providing these figures by the factors that are part of this exact conflict, exactly how I explained it to you the last time we had this discussion, every conflict follows the exact steps, there are no figures listed twice or more in different conflicts, the factors for every conflict are the same, they're not listed by country, each conflict has specific factors and these figures are taken by the database. The database gives these numbers through the same steps, I already explained it, again, the methodology is simple and its free for everyone to read it. Whitesin21 (talk) 20:32, 17 June 2026 (UTC)
- That's not a diff. I'll give you two diffs, they are 09:19, 22 December 2025 and 14:07, 4 March 2026, which are both posts by me that are the only use of "Cameroon" in the entire archive. So I ask once again, with the added rather important caveat of since this article has four different conflicts involving Cameroon listed ("Islamist insurgencies in the Maghreb/Sahel", "Civil conflicts in Nigeria", "Cameroonian conflicts" and "Central African Republic Civil War"), how have you assigned the figures from ACLED (which only list by country, not by conflict) to a specific conflict involving Cameroon? Am I going to get another "it's conplicated" evasion? FDW777 (talk) 19:16, 17 June 2026 (UTC)
- Here is everything you need to read again, absolutely zero stonewalling, your failure to even understand how ACLED works or try to read the methodology behind its database is proof that you are trying to vandalise this page. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_ongoing_armed_conflicts/Archive_13#Post-Rfc_information_requested Whitesin21 (talk) 19:12, 17 June 2026 (UTC)
- Where? Please provide a diff of your reply with the steps needed including calculations? Your failure to even provide the steps needed for a single conflict is stonewalling. FDW777 (talk) 19:09, 17 June 2026 (UTC)
- Please see archive discussion 13#, you want me to do it for you? Whitesin21 (talk) 19:08, 17 June 2026 (UTC)
- Please provide tne steps needed, including any calculations. FDW777 (talk) 19:05, 17 June 2026 (UTC)
- I never failed to address it actually, the answer is the same as in the archived discussion and it still remains the same, each conflict is being approached with the same metholodogy in mind, you're clearly unable to understand how ACLED database works and you are free to search it up for yourself. Whitesin21 (talk) 19:04, 17 June 2026 (UTC)
- I refer you to the RFC. The concerns were not addressed, and in the subsequent recommended discussion you repeatedly stonewalled, as you are doing now. I will retiterate: I cannot see how a single figure you claim is referenced by ACLED is actaully referenced, so please provide full, unique instructions for every single conflict. You are the one claiming they are referenced, so it is up to you to explain how the figures are obtained. FDW777 (talk) 18:59, 17 June 2026 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 29 June 2026
[edit]1. Add United States intervention in Nigeria
2. Update the start of the Brazilian drug war to 1992
3. Remove Syria in the 2026 Iran war (since all the similar articles were removed)
4. Remove Spillover of the Syrian civil war (article about the civil war)
LtPsyche (talk) 06:32, 29 June 2026 (UTC)
- Done. Whitesin21 (talk) 10:59, 3 July 2026 (UTC)
United States
[edit]Shouldn’t the United States be colored in with the 1-99 deaths group due to the Iran War? ~2026-38815-90 (talk) 16:31, 9 July 2026 (UTC)
- Location and the map are for where the conflicts are taking place, not the parties. Mtcat101 (talk) 20:55, 9 July 2026 (UTC)
- Then why Russia was colored? War in Siberia? ~2026-40897-44 (talk) 08:42, 22 July 2026 (UTC)
- Russia has experienced over a thousand deaths last year, and over 300 deaths this year in its territory because of the Russo–Ukrainian war. The Iran war has not led to any deaths on American soil and so is not colored like Russia is. Mtcat101 (talk) 15:21, 22 July 2026 (UTC)
- Then why Russia was colored? War in Siberia? ~2026-40897-44 (talk) 08:42, 22 July 2026 (UTC)
Sri Lanka
[edit]Can someone please colour Sri Lanka in yellow? The country experienced 35 homicides due to Operation Yukthiya this year. Wikitalovin1 (talk) 16:48, 18 July 2026 (UTC)
Where is the USA-Iran war?
[edit]or u all not count this as war??? ~2026-40897-44 (talk) 08:40, 22 July 2026 (UTC)
- It’s listed as a part of the Arab-Israeli conflict. OrbitalVoid49 (talk) 08:44, 22 July 2026 (UTC)
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