Talk:Li Xinchuan

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The result was: promoted by Gatoclass (talk) 14:21, 21 December 2025 (UTC)

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• ... that Li Xinchuan was allowed to return to his old workplace after fleeing the Mongol invasion?

• Source: :Hartman 2020, pg. 107 As we have discussed above in Chapter 1, he remained in Sichuan until 1237 when the Mongol incursions forced his permanent relocation to the east. He returned to court as assistant director of the Imperial Library in 1238/3 and resumed work on the Four Restoration Courts State History

Hartman 2001, pg. 324 Huang Chen's biography implies that Li Hsin-ch'uan was called to Court in 1236 to rescue him from the mayhem in the province [...] Li returned to the history office in 1238/3.

• • Reviewed: It's OK to Be Angry About Capitalism and List of Alexander McQueen collections :) theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 17:00, 25 November 2025 (UTC)
  • Comment: QPQs forthcoming, Theleekycauldron has volunteered to donate some

Created by Generalissima (talk). Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 133 past nominations.

Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 13:03, 25 November 2025 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Epicgenius (talk) 15:22, 26 November 2025 (UTC)

GA review

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Nominator: Generalissima (talk · contribs) 09:51, 23 November 2025 (UTC)

Reviewer: Crisco 1492 (talk · contribs) 20:41, 3 June 2026 (UTC)

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GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose, spelling, grammar, and understandability): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable, as shown by a source spot-check.

   a (reference section): b (inline citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

Written comments

Images

• File:China - Southern Song Dynasty-en.svg - What references were used in creating this historical map?
  • It is based off a map from Tan Qixiang (ed.), Zhongguo lishi ditu (中国历史地图集; 1982). The maps are a bit different; areas marked under state control but marked as desert are shown as not under control in this map, but that seems like a reasonable alteration. -G

Prose

• Imperial Library - Worth a redlink?
  • Already redlinked, no? It was an important institution in the dynasty.
• Neo-Confucianism is linked multiple times
  • Fixed.-G
• The sentence starting While Li's work impacted future evaluations of Neo-Confucian history (such as his portrayal of the scholar Xing Shu [zh] as a traitor against his teacher, Cheng Yi) is just one huge run-on. Should definitely be refactored.
  • Fixed.-G

Spot checks

Based on this revision.

• 7b: Checks out
• 13a: Checks out
• 17: Source says the Yongle Encyclopedia was 1407
• 24: Could you provide a quote?
  • Unfortunately, in the course of its transmission, the Record acquired successive layers of later commentary that Li Xinchuan did not write. Since no copy of the work survived after the Ming, the Qing academicians reconstructed the present text of the Chronological Record, as they did the Long Draft, from quotations in the early Ming Yongle Encyclopedia into which these Song works had been copied. The Qing scholars noted the discrepancy between Li Xinchuan’s original commentary and the subsequent layer, but their reconstruction made no attempt to distinguish between the two. Rather, they themselves added yet an additional layer of commentary.
• 29: Could you provide a quote?
  • Li Xinchuan thought the Mongols were more related to the Jurchens [...] Li Xinchuan thought them related, however, due to the hypothesis, which modern historians have tended to accept, that the Mongolic-speaking Tatars moved onto the Mongolian plateau not from the Kitans’ land of southeastern Inner Mongolia, but from farther north in the Amur and other river basins of Manchuria. [...] A further confusion that affected both Li Xinchuan’s and Zhao Gong’s accounts was that between the “Mongol” of the empire and the “Monggus” kingdom established in the Amur valley more than a century earlier. [...] it appears that some Song border experts tried to see the Mongol Empire as a new and revived successor of the long defunct Monggus kingdom.
• 35: Could you provide a quote?
  • Unlike many of his peers, Li had little interest in a life devoted to painting, art, philosophical discourse, or even, for many years, government service. [...] No more did the histories of dynasties past. His concern, rather, was with the Sung, specifically with the time since the "southward crossing" [...] Yet none of them, except possibly Li T'ao, could compare with Li Hsin-ch'uan in singularity of purpose or magnitude of accomplishment.
• 39a: Could you provide a quote?
  • Most of his contemporaries were receptive [...] Then came imperial recognition of Li's work, numerous recommendations from highly placed friends, and eventually a career as an official historian, which began in 1226 and lasted until shortly before his death.

Conclusion

• Seems to be mostly there. I'll put this on hold while waiting for some quotes, as well as information about the WP:V compliance of the image. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 21:02, 3 June 2026 (UTC)

  @Crisco 1492: Responded! Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 03:42, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

  Thanks muchly. Looks good to go now! Happy to promote. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 17:11, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

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