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Latest comment: 11 months ago by Agent VII in topic Requested move 6 August 2025

Major Error !?

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This article states that the Left Bloc entered parliament for the first time in 2006 with 8 MPs. This is factually incorrect, it entered in 1999 with two MPs, which under the Portuguese constituion constituted a parliamentary group with speaking rights in every debate. You can check out the election results on the corresponding Wikipedia page.PhilomenaO'M (talk) 16:08, 5 September 2018 (UTC)Reply

I have now corrected that (with a link to the page on the 1999 election which states that it had 2 MPs elected. There is also a falsehood in the opening paragraph. The Portuguese press does not punctuate B.E. It write BE. So I'm going to change that. Example from Portuguese national newspaper Publico : BE vai insistir na taxa anti-especulação imobiliária https://www.publico.pt/pesquisa?query=+BE+ PhilomenaO'M (talk) 15:08, 21 September 2018 (UTC)Reply

Political leaning

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It seems to be uncontroversial that Left Bloc leans to the left of the traditional left. 85.243.56.212 (talk) 17:09, 25 April 2019 (UTC)Reply

Far-left

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Another view about left bloc's political spectrum has been suggested by 89.154.84.93 with specific sources. I think this article needs another discussion whether the party is left-wing or left-wing to far-left. Here are the citations that are used to describe the party as the left-wing by 89.154.84.93. [1][2] Jeff6045 07:54, 25 September 2019 (UTC)

The sources that were given for far-left (before being removed in the last edit) were mostly quite old, so it is reasonable that the party could have shifted in this time. However, one source that supported far-left from Euronews is from 2019. Then again, on the Portuguese language version of the page there seems to be agreement over defining the party as simply left-wing as that is how it stands in the infobox there and there does not seem to be edit warring over this. Based off of this I'm not sure where we should go, just outlining what I have seen. Helper201 (talk) 08:40, 25 September 2019 (UTC)Reply


Warning! Please do not continue to put the Far-left classification on the page. It isn't a right classification. As a democratic socialist party [3] it is not far-left. You can see the candidate, Marisa Matias (also MEP), for the presidential elections of 2021 from the Left Bloc was not a far-left one. Contrasting immensely with the Candidate from the Communist Party. Being way more close to the Socialist Party (social-democratic party) one. I am Portuguese, and believe me that euronews is not at all the best source. If you don't agree please talk to me and I'll answer. Go read, and if need be use Google Translate, the talk page in the Portuguese Wikipedia page. --Vascoruela (talk) 23:12, 21 February 2021 (UTC)Reply

References that support the not far-left use on this page [4] "Catarina Martins considerou a classificação do BE como "extrema-esquerda" um insulto." Catarina Martins considered the BE's classification as far-left an insult.[5] "Catarina Martins quebrou um tabu de um partido que, da primeira vez que chegou ao Parlamento, insistiu em sentar-se à esquerda do PCP, precisamente no extremo esquerdo do hemiciclo. Na época havia uma revolução para fazer – agora, e deixemos de lado o peso simbólico da retórica, o que o Bloco quer fazer são reformas à boa maneira social-democrata, a tendência que modelou os partidos socialistas europeus" Catarina Martins broke a taboo for a party that, the first time it came to Parliament, insisted on sitting to the left of the PCP, precisely on the far left of the chamber. At that time there was a revolution to be made - now, and let's leave aside the symbolic weight of rhetoric, what the Bloco wants to do are reforms in the good social-democratic way, the trend that has shaped the European socialist parties[6] (Entrevista a Catarina Martins: "O programa do Bloco é social-democrata") Interview with Catarina Martins: "The Bloco's program is social-democratic".[7] "É assim que a afirmação de Catarina Martins sobre o programa do Bloco de Esquerda, definindo-o como social-democrata, não deve causar surpresa, embora possa atirar por terra algumas esperanças numa ideologia mais radical." Thus, Catarina Martins' statement about the Left Bloc's program, defining it as social-democratic, should come as no surprise, although it may dash some hopes for a more radical ideology.[8] --Vascoruela (talk) 10:11, 22 February 2021 (UTC)Reply

References

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  1. "Programa do Bloco é "essencialmente social-democrata"".
  2. "Entrevista a Catarina Martins: "O programa do Bloco é social-democrata" /premium".
  3. https://observador.pt/especiais/entrevista-a-catarina-martins-o-programa-do-bloco-e-social-democrata/
  4. https://www.dn.pt/poder/da-extrema-esquerda-de-1976-ja-so-resta-o-pctpmrpp-11275083.html
  5. https://www.publico.pt/2019/01/22/politica/noticia/esquerda-esquerda-casa-bloco-1858503
  6. https://radioalfa.net/20-anos-de-bloco-da-extrema-esquerda-a-social-democracia-editorial-do/
  7. https://observador.pt/especiais/entrevista-a-catarina-martins-o-programa-do-bloco-e-social-democrata/
  8. https://ionline.sapo.pt/artigo/671032/o-bloco-social-democrata?seccao=Opini%C3%A3o_i

Requested move 6 August 2025

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Agent 007 (talk) 18:35, 20 August 2025 (UTC)Reply


WP:PRIMARYTOPIC per more pageviews than all others combined since mid-2022. Jeffrey34555 (talk) 18:13, 6 August 2025 (UTC)  Relisting. Agent 007 (talk) 18:27, 13 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

Support per nom Kowal2701 (talk) 18:53, 13 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
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