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Latest comment: 7 months ago by ~2025-38000-28 in topic ESC participant deaths trivia

Date of birth

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When was Andersen born? March 23, 1910 (see "What links here") or March 28, 1908? --KF 22:44, 1 Sep 2003 (UTC)

Acording to the source (ESC eplayer) where I got the information from it was mar 28, 1908. - fonzy

March 23, 1905? Wik, are you going to tell us (a) where you got that date from and (b) what makes you so sure it's the correct one? --KF 22:51, 2 Sep 2003 (UTC)
, , , , and especially, . --Wik 23:11, 2 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Thanks! --KF 23:30, 2 Sep 2003 (UTC)

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It is not clear to me if I have directed this message to the correct e-mail address. If not, I hope you can help me to fordward it to the correct place.

I read your biography on Lale ANDERSEN, and found an important incorrect information.

Wikipedia says: "She married Rolf Libermann who was Jewish, and lived with him for the rest of her life."

This information is not correct, because Lale Andersen was married to someone else:

"... at age 17 she married the Worpswede painter Paul Ernst Wilke. In 1931, now the mother of three children, she left her husband to make her own way in Berlin."

See here: http://www.istrianet.org/istria/music/lili-marleen.htm

Rolf Libermann (or Liebermann (1910 - 1999). http://www.universaledition.com/truman/en_templates/view.php3?f_id=164&spr=en

Here you can see the relationship between Lale Andersen and Rolf Liebermann: http://www.sikorski.de/en/frameloader.html?frame=http%3A//www.sikorski.de/composers/composer52.html

"When one glances back to the early 1930s, one encounters the Swiss-born composer as a composer of chansons and collaborator in cabaret events who made the artistic acquaintance of Liselotte Wilke, the later legendary Lale Andersen."

Lale Andersen and Rolf Liebermann: http://www.schulla.com/covergalerie/DATEN/L/LALE%20ANDERSEN/Lale%20Andersen.htm

"Hier berichtet sie über ihre erste Begegnung mit Rolf Liebermann." .............. "Ich traf ihn nicht nur einmal. Ich traf ihn oft. Wo immer in den letzten Jahren ein musikalisches Ereignis in der Luft lag, war auch er: Rolf Liebermann." .............. "Mit Göndi, seiner reizenden, jungenhaften Frau, ist Rolf Liebermann heute überall zu Hause, wo Musikbesessenheit, Gastlichkeit und Humor Menschen zusammenführt."

More here: http://www.gus-manager.de/index.php?lfd=4&ulfd=5&datei=frames/standard.php&txt=lili_marleen

"Am 27. März 1922 heiratet sie den Maler Paul Ernst Wilke. Zwischen 1924 und 1929 werden drei Kinder geboren. Björn, Carmen-Litta und Michael. 1931 wird Lieselotte Wilke geschieden." ...................... "1933 begegnet sie Rolf Liebermann, mit dem sie eine intensive Liebes- und Arbeitsbeziehung sowie eine lebenslängliche Freundschaft verbindet."



With best regards,

Hans Andresen S. Médico Veterinario - MSc Profesor Emérito UNM San Marcos Lima - PERU

Posted Charles Matthews 23:00, 15 January 2006 (UTC)Reply

I added some of the citations, and removed the contested sentance, which is:
"She married Rolf Libermann who was Jewish, and lived with him for the rest of her life. Because of her marriage to Liberman she was persecuted by the Nazi regime."
Sam Spade 09:37, 16 January 2006 (UTC)Reply
Sorry Sam, I hadn't seen this... I was in the process of rewriting this and somehow I didn't even get an edit conflict when I saved. Anyway, I think it's correct now, and adequately sourced, too :-) Now someone should improve that Rolf Liebermann article! Lupo 12:28, 16 January 2006 (UTC)Reply

Spelling

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it says AndersOn on Internet Archive. http://www.archive.org/details/LaleAnderson-91-100 Which is correct? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.103.34.170 (talk) 20:55, 16 May 2010 (UTC)Reply

Good work

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Having read through this, with the exception of the sources, and having assessed this for Project Germany, I feel this is an excellent and well-written article indeed; congratulations! Tropical wind (talk) 13:46, 26 July 2010 (UTC)Reply

Cause of Death

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The German version of this page gives Andersen's cause of death as Liver Cancer though neither German nor English page cite any sources. Coolavokig (talk) 19:45, 18 August 2011 (UTC)Reply

Several of the external links included in the "References" no longer exist or cannot be accessed. It seems to me, that some updating is required by now. Alas, I do not have the time for it now. Perhaps later! Anyone interested in helping out? Thank you ever so much! --JeffDellbart (talk) 10:56, 14 November 2015 (UTC)Reply

ESC participant deaths trivia

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'Her death was the first among female Eurovision contestants and German-speaking Eurovision contestants and, following Jacques Pills and Jean-Paul Mauric, the third among Eurovision contestants in general; Mauric also appeared in Eurovision 1961.'

Really, do we need this? How is this info meaningful? What's next - the first green-eyed ESC contestant to die, or the third one whose zodiacal sign was Capricorn? ~2025-38000-28 (talk) 18:15, 22 December 2025 (UTC)Reply