Talk:La Strada

Requested move 20 February 2025

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) ASUKITE 13:58, 1 March 2025 (UTC)

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La Strada → La stradaLa strada – see MOS:NONENGTITLE and Wikipedia:Naming conventions (capitalization)#Works and compositions; the Italian capitalization is with a lowercase S. ~ IvanScrooge98 (talk) 17:40, 20 February 2025 (UTC)

• Those guidelines say "For historical works, follow the dominant usage in modern, English-language, reliable sources." I think a 1954 film probably qualifies as a historical work. What is the dominant usage in modern, English-language, reliable sources? The mainstream English-language sources I have noticed (IMDb, Allmovie, Rotten Tomatoes) seem to use "La Strada". —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 20:54, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
• Observation: Taking a random sampling of Category:Italian films, it seems like the great majority of films with Italian titles are of the uncapitalized ilk. For Fellini himself, the score is 3 to 1, though the sole holdout, I Vitelloni, had the same proposed move soundly rejected. Clarityfiend (talk) 22:07, 20 February 2025 (UTC)

  Thank you. My main concern is actually inconsistency with the usual practice. I understand works like I vitelloni and La strada can be considered historical and fall under another criterion, but as I pointed out in the other talk, we have La dolce vita instead of La Dolce Vita—a movie which was realized only a few years after the ones we’re discussing. ~ IvanScrooge98 (talk) 22:28, 20 February 2025 (UTC)

For La Dolce Vita, I see the same or an even stronger pattern toward capitalization. The vast majority of the mainstream English-language sources (Variety, IMDb, Metacritic, Rotten Tomatoes, Roger Ebert, Los Angles Times, The New York Times) seem to use English-style title case for it. I agree that consistency among these Fellini films seems desirable. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 23:13, 20 February 2025 (UTC)

The Academy Awards website (in a caption – elsewhere it is in all-caps), Roger Ebert, filmsite.org, and AnOther Magazine also use "La Strada". BFI has lowercase. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 20:05, 21 February 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose per comments by BarrelProof. La strada is this film's Italian title, but it was marketed, distributed and reviewed in the English-speaking world as La Strada. A lengthy discussion in 2010 at Talk:La Strada#Upper or Lower Case resulted in this entry's main title header being moved to "La Strada". In addition to the reliable sources mentioned above by BarrelProof, it should be noted that, in March 1957, La Strada was the first winner in the newly-instituted competitive category Academy Award for Best Foreign Language Film and appears in the Academy database as La Strada, not as La strada. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 03:30, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose per Roman Spinner and comments of BarrelProof. Randy Kryn (talk) 04:50, 21 February 2025 (UTC)

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