Talk:Kumpir
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Merge
[edit]This is just a local name for baked potato, even having cleaned up the article I see nothing to distinguish it from baked potatoes served anywhere else in the world, except perhaps the cheese being kasar rather than Cheddar cheese or whatever. Thus it should be merged with the main Baked potato article. FlagSteward 01:04, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
Etymology
[edit]Actually, whoever wrote "Grumbeer" literally meant "ground berry" is wrong and had too much Standard German in their mind. The Standard German word "Beere" does mean "berry". However, in Palatine and some related German dialects, "Beer" means "pear". So, "Grumbeer" means, literally, "ground pear". Trust me, I'm fluent both in Palatine and Standard German, and I know a lot about languages. In Standard German, the word for "pear" is "Birne". This is a phenomenon caused by former plural endings not being used as plural endings any more at some point of language history, which sometimes happens in words referring to objects that usually occur in a number higher than one. The same phenomenon can be observed in the Standard German word "Biene" (English:bee, in some Palatine dialects: Bee). An example from another West Germanic language is the (Low) Dutch word "schoen" (English: shoe, German (both Palatine and Standard): Schuh). This also was a plural form earlier in the history of the Dutch language, but today it's used as a singular form, and the new plural is "schoenen", as far as I know. --Heinz (talk) 22:03, 15 March 2026 (UTC)
- The text appears to come from the de.wiki article, but the source given there is insufficient and doesn't discuss etymology (). I'd note as well that claims about a Hungarian "krumpli" are not backed up by anything at the Hungarian article, which calls it kumpir as well. Absent any source supporting it, I think it's safe to remove it at this point. signed, Rosguill talk 22:15, 15 March 2026 (UTC)
- The only real problem was "berries" instead of "pears", the rest seems OK. I restored it with this small change, adding the (very very insufficient) reference offered by Wikisource. Perhaps someone can find a better reference. Oudeístalk 11:16, 16 March 2026 (UTC)