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Latest comment: 8 months ago by Peter coxhead in topic Pronunciation

Pronunciation

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On Gardeners World this evening when Monty Don said the name of this plant, both my parents said he was saying it wrong. He pronounced the i as ɪ (as in kit) and the o as ɒ (as in dog). My parents were both agreed that it was meant to be pronounced /niːpˈhoʊfiə/. Wikipedia currently disagrees with both Monty and my parents. Doe anyone know who is right? I have noticed the reference but don't have a copy of Sunset Western Garden Book, 1995:606–607 to check that the IPA version has been transcribed correctly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.176.208.164 (talk) 20:05, 8 July 2011 (UTC)Reply

Actually it should be pronounced in the way its German namegiver is pronounced. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johann_Hieronymus_Kniphof
It's K-nip-hofia.
The K is not silent. The P and H are pronounced separately and not as an F. And the O is pronounced as in 'load'. ~2025-34451-53 (talk) 22:04, 17 November 2025 (UTC)Reply
Yes, I agree that ideally it should be pronounced something like /knɪpˈhfiə/, although the German "o" is, I think, not as long as the // that English speakers typically use. However, Latinized scientific names don't really have a fixed pronunciation. Books I have on my shelf give "nif-OF-e-a"[1] and "nee-FOF-ee-a",[2] neither of which respect the "kn" and the separation of "p" and "h". Peter coxhead (talk) 14:26, 20 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

References

  1. Johnson, A.T. & Smith, H.A. (1972), Plant Names Simplified : Their Pronunciation Derivation & Meaning, Buckenhill, Herefordshire: Landsmans Bookshop, ISBN 978-0-900513-04-6
  2. Coombes, Allen J. (1994), Dictionary of Plant Names, London: Hamlyn Books, ISBN 978-0-600-58187-1

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this plant is from africa, can someone please add african content 173.222.1.159 (talk) 21:37, 10 May 2025 (UTC)Reply