Talk:Kinboshi

Active yokozuna kinboshi ratio

I notice there's a "needs update" tag on this. Is it done after each tournament? If so, perhaps a note saying "as of March 2017" or whenever it was could be added. Obviously Kisenosato will make his first appearance in this table having lost to Endo and Tochiozan.--Pawnkingthree (talk) 14:15, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

added the following note, clarifying that @ArguaBILL is updating daily:

"The tables are updated daily for the ongoing September 2025 tournament."

post-basho to be replaced with a note echoing the other lists of sumo records:

"The tables are up to date as of the end of the September 2025 tournament."

serving as a reminder to us as well, both "earned by active wrestlers" and "current lowest ratio" need to be updated concurrently!

PS. the four current tables appear to be accurate as of now. (unless there's an omission somehow.) DK-ZERO (talk) 11:01, 17 September 2025 (UTC)

Restrictions

I thought the monetary bonuses weren’t awarded if the rikishi doesn’t get kachi-koshi? Is that wrong?ALAKTORN (talk) 11:36, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

If that's the case it's the first I've heard of it. FourTildes (talk) 12:13, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

Japanese wikipedia says a kinboshi monetary bonus is added to a wrestler's monthly salary even if he gets make-koshi. It also says a kinboshi is equivalent to 20 kachi-koshi's. Whoa. Did not know this. FourTildes (talk) 12:24, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

Yes, the bonuses are awarded for every tournament the rikishi competes in for the rest of his career, regardless of performance.--Pawnkingthree (talk) 00:04, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

column change

I had an idea and then went ahead and changed the current kinboshi winners' list 3rd column to show the last time the rikishi had a kinboshi. This seems more interesting than what their highest rank achieved is (which is a staple on a lot of sumo lists on wiki, and a bit run of the mill). It is also much easier to remember to update, because it can be done when a new kinboshi is added for a rikishi, as opposed to being updated as it is noticed when a rikishi is promoted to a higher rank. I didn't think it was a controversial change so I have already implemented it. I did try to make the last column (last achieved) sort, but I think the grouping of rikishi with the same number of kinboshi makes this difficult - though I don't think being sortable is that useful, as there are a few reasons why rikishi haven't had a kinboshi for a long time (one of course being more or less permanently in sanyaku). FourTildes (talk) 14:58, 18 November 2016 (UTC)

Definitely an improvement.--Pawnkingthree (talk) 14:54, 28 November 2016 (UTC)