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I agree that the Khopesh evolved from an axe. However as soon as it became a thrusting tool and not a simply a choping limited tool it also became a sword. But my concern is why is the Sickle Sword merged into this page it may be nit picky but the Khopesh is a style of a Sickle Sword I think a new page should be created that only deals with the shared aspects all these tools have in common (Khopesh,Sappara ect.) also please addin citation if you are going to make the argument that all Sickle Swords are axes thanks (69.63.16.131 (talk) 05:53, 9 August 2008 (UTC))

yeah, saying that the later sickle swords are really axes, is like saying bronze leaf blade swords are really knives. What is a "true sword"?, I think that criteria of how a sword is usually considered a sword based on form and function, not how it was developed. Here is the definition from the sword wikipedia page "A sword is a long-edged piece of metal, used as a cutting and/or thrusting weapon", sounds like a later sickle sword to me. Since the Khopesh isn't the only example, I think that a separate sickle sword page is needed. I'll look for good online sources for information on sickle sword typology and development.Spoudaiogeloion (talk) 01:37, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Any chance theres any wiki projects are covering this that are active? (69.63.16.131 (talk) 22:58, 19 August 2008 (UTC))

Edit regarding the sickle sword's "axe" nature

The sickle sword did, in fact, evolve from a type of axe. However, the sickle sword itself is not considered an axe. The earlier Sumerian model would most likely be considered an axe. —Preceding unsigned comment added by NJMauthor (talk • contribs) 04:30, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Anyone have any sources about the origin or development of sickle sword?

Theblindsage (talk) 06:45, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Edge?

I'm not quite sure -is the sharpened edge on the inside of the curve or the outside edge?Rickremember (talk) 02:39, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

The edge is on the outside of the curve.--Meversbergii (talk) 09:09, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

making them "sabres-on-a-stick" rather than "sickle-swords", strictly speaking. --dab (𒁳) 09:13, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Because the edge is on the outside, this makes the idea that the khopesh is an ancestor of the falcata (which has the blade on the inside) unlikely Monstrelet (talk) 16:44, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

I'd call the connection between Falcata and Khopesh spurious. Both are bronze age swords, but share neither morphological nor functional similarities. Theblindsage (talk) 06:49, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

There seem to be other views on the edges. E.g., in Russian Wikipedia it is said that the edge may be sharpened only from the inside or on both sides, in which case the part closer to the handle would be sharp from inside and the farther part from outside. (Лезвие могло иметь как только внутреннюю, так двойную заточку, когда ближняя к рукояти часть клинка имела внешнюю заточку, а дальняя — внутреннюю.) Unfortunately, there is no source. --Oop (talk) 06:32, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Suggesting the edges on certain examples not being meant to hold an edge made them ceremonial may be misleading or false. Some cavalry sabres have unsharpened edges so they do not become lost when a sharpened edge cuts into, and is grabbed by skull and bone. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2607:FEA8:88A0:323:9C00:4C38:69C0:EC38 (talk) 02:25, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

Sickle-sword

This should be it's own article (though I doubt there's a whole lot of information enough to start it, much less references). Reason being, sickle-sword is a type of design. E.g. the Sappara and Khopesh are sickle-swords.

a sickle sword is used 4 many things —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.208.120.222 (talk) 15:52, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

A khopesh is not a sickle sword. A shotel is a sickle sword. The key difference is which edge is sharpened. 2600:1012:B1A2:ACB2:246D:2A67:4C0C:4D40 (talk) 13:57, 16 March 2025 (UTC)

Plural?

I'm wondering what the plural form of khopesh is. I read "khopeshes" on another website, but I don't know if that is correct. Would be helpful to specify the plural in the article if possible. --Pythagimedes (talk) 20:49, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

Blue Oyster Cult

anyone? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A0A:A540:2AC:0:C8DD:2539:FC65:4825 (talk) 10:23, 1 January 2022 (UTC)

learning by differentiating: katana=riderssword, straight=ninjasword, yojimbosixgun=ineedtolearnfromthisthought — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A0A:A540:2AC:0:C8DD:2539:FC65:4825 (talk) 10:26, 1 January 2022 (UTC)

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Incorrect disuse period of the weapon

Suggested correction – Period of Khopesh use The article currently states that “the khopesh fell out of use around 1300 BC.”

This statement is inaccurate according to modern academic research.

Suggested revision: The khopesh gradually fell out of use during the 12th century BC, after being widely used throughout Egypt’s New Kingdom. Its use is attested at least until the reign of Ramesses II (1279–1213 BC), based on military depictions and archaeological findings from this period. Academic sources: Anthony Harding (2018) – Warfare in Bronze Age Society. Cambridge University Press.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/325070642_Warfare_in_Bronze_Age_Society

Roger Doonan (2012) – Warriors and Weapons in Bronze Age Europe. Archaeolingua.

https://www.archaeolingua.hu/book/warriors-and-weapons-bronze-age-europe

K.P. Foster (2005) – Weapons of the Ancient Egyptians, in Ancient Warfare, Vol. 3, No. 1. Archaeological evidence: Khopesh found in the tomb of Tutankhamun (KV62), ca. 1323 BC Depictions of Ramesses II wielding the khopesh in battle scenes (e.g., Abu Simbel, Ramesseum), dated between 1279–1213 BC. Rudy229 (talk) 09:24, 7 July 2025 (UTC)