Talk:Karl Thopia

What kind of writing is going on here?

Control of Durrës and the Princedom of Albania

"The long protracted turmoil of dynastic wars had made germinate in their real victims, the Albanians, the seeds of national sentiment which contained great promise, so that, when after Emperor Stefan Dušan's death, a descendant of Stefan Uroš I, returned to the province, the inhabitants rose en masse and, under the leadership of Karl Thopia, cut down the pretender and his entire force in the battle of Acheloos."

How can this paragraph be allowed? All it takes is to actually follow up on the page of battle of Achelous, and the parties involved, Peter Losha, Gjin Bua Shpata, and Nikephoros II Orsini. Albanians were fighting Orsini, not Simeon Uroš. Orsini was at war with Uroš, trying to negotiate a peace before his demise, and Losha and Shpata were recognized as Despots by Symeon himself.. Please stop the agenda writing. Mehoskubina (talk) 15:54, 10 October 2025 (UTC)

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Which language is this: "To the Roman Curia, Karl maintained usually good relations, therefore that could do. In 1376 a vacant place became an ore diocese in Durrës, again with a Latin Bishop to be occupied." written in? What does it mean? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.245.110.18 (talk) 22:00, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

Karl or Charles?

I have seen secondary English language sources which refer to him as Charles Thopia. What is the most common name? Surtsicna (talk)

It's a transliteration of the Albanian Karl. It should be Karl, but could you please bring the sources on Charles? --_Sulmues ^{Let's talk} 14:38, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

It should only be Karl if a majority of reliable English language sources refer to him as Karl, not because Karl is an Albanian transliteration. It seems to me that there are more English language sources which call him Charles than those that call him Karl (many of those are in German). Notable ones that refer to him as Charles are:

• Hungary and the fall of Eastern Europe 1000-1568
• Early Albania: a reader of historical texts, 11th-17th centuries Surtsicna (talk) 20:30, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

Although it's not the best argument around Karl gives 5 times as much results as Charles in Google Books.

• "Karl Thopia" - 1,120 hits in Google Books
• "Charles Thopia" - 226 hits in Google Books. --Sulmues (talk) 20:34, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

Title

What was his personal title?--Zoupan 17:36, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Karl's father

According to Karl Hopf, his father was Andrea, who was either the son or brother of Tanusio Topia.--Zoupan 03:31, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

Name

Thopia:

• "Karl Thopia" (127)
• "Carlo Thopia" (69)
• "Karlo Thopia" (8)
• "Carl Thopia" (7)

Topia:

• "Karl Topia" (108)
• "Carlo Topia" (75)
• "Karlo Topia" (13)
• "Carl Topia" (11)

Gbook hits. Also "Thopia family" (40); "Topia family" (6); 21st-c hits: "Karl Topia" (30); "Karl Thopia" (23). --Zoupan 23:49, 20 July 2015 (UTC)