Talk:Kalakand

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Historical Discrepancy Regarding Kalakand's Invention

The claim that Kalakand was invented by Thakur Das in 1947, as mentioned in the current Wikipedia entry, requires re-evaluation based on historical evidence. A book published in 1890 in Urdu explicitly mentions Kalakand, predating the purported invention by over half a century. This raises questions about the veracity of the claim.

The 1890 publication indicates that Kalakand was already a known confectionery in South Asia by the late 19th century. While Thakur Das may have popularized or refined a specific variation of Kalakand, the evidence suggests that its origins are much older. It is essential to consider this historical context to avoid attributing the invention of this sweet dish inaccurately to a single individual or specific time period.

This discrepancy underscores the need for further research into the origins and evolution of Kalakand, utilizing historical records, cookbooks, and oral traditions from the region. Correcting this oversight will contribute to a more accurate and nuanced understanding of the history of South Asian cuisine. Veritasphere (talk) 10:03, 15 January 2025 (UTC)

The quote from the provided source does not provide sufficient evidence to refute the existing History section content written from WP:RS. The author seems to make a general claim about a variety of sweets and does not provide evidence to support the claim, in particular regarding kalakand. Moreover, this claim is not supported by other WP:RS. Finally, the above material seems to have been written using AI. - Ram1751 (talk) 03:37, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

What about the source—was it generated by AI? :) Veritasphere (talk) 04:08, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

@Ram1751 how is it possible that a sweet invented in 1947 is mentioned in a book from 1890 and still regarded as a WP:RS? Veritasphere (talk) 04:12, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

The source you had provided has a 1957 date:

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kalakand&oldid=1269765590#References

-Ram1751 (talk) 04:24, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

I am not referring to the 1957 source but the 1890 book I mentioned on the talk page, which explicitly mentions Kalakand. If Kalakand was invented in 1947, why is it mentioned in a 1890 book? The 1957 reference suggests it was created by Muslims, but I don't agree with that. Can you provide any references earlier than 1890 stating that Kalakand was invented by Thakur Sahib or someone else? Veritasphere (talk) 11:19, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

@Ram1751 Veritasphere (talk) 04:56, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for finding this source. I've updated the history section accordingly. - Ram1751 (talk) 04:19, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

Thanks bro Veritasphere (talk) 11:55, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

Synonym?

Is this dish also called mishri mawa? 98.123.38.212 (talk) 03:14, 9 June 2025 (UTC)