Talk:Kaavan

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: withdrawn by nominator, closed by Yoninah (talk) 22:04, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

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• ... that Islamabad High Court ordered the zoo officials to relocate elephant Kaavan from Islamabad Zoo to a suitable sanctuary following a four-year campaign by pop singer Cher? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)
  • ALT1:... that elephant Kaavan was gifted by the Sri Lankan government to Pakistan's dictator general Muhammad Zia-ul-Haq in 1985? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)
  • ALT2:... that Pop singer Cher initiated a campaign #SaveKaavan in 2016 demanding for the release of Kaavan from Islamabad Zoo?

Created by Abishe (talk). Self-nominated at 06:53, 25 May 2020 (UTC).

• New enough, long enough, well referenced, no close paraphrasing seen. The first hook looks best. But I have some questions about the neutrality. There is a glaring lack of balance in the article. The zoo's explanations for what was going on are not mentioned at all. (For example, the sources say that the elephant was doing badly because he needed a new mate, who was on the way.) The subhead Campaign by Cher focuses unduly on the singer; there were other efforts being made during this time. It's unclear why this section starts with a 2015 petition but doesn't explain why that petition was lodged. I added some "citation needed" tags. No QPQ needed for nominator with less than 5 DYK credits. Yoninah (talk) 16:19, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

• @Yoninah: I am withdrawing my nomination as I might not be able to focus on this article due to college assignments. I agree that the neutrality of the article is disputed. Abishe (talk) 11:47, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

• @Abishe: Would you like me to help fix up the article? You have enough good sources. Yoninah (talk) 12:33, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

• The nominator is editing Wikipedia but not responding here, so I guess I'll honor his request and withdraw this. Yoninah (talk) 22:04, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

Neutrality

I have tagged this article because there is a glaring lack of balance here. The zoo's explanations for what was going on are not mentioned at all. (For example, the sources say that the elephant was doing badly because he needed a new mate, who was on the way.) The subhead Campaign by Cher focuses unduly on the singer; there were other efforts being made during this time. It's unclear why this section starts with a 2015 petition but doesn't explain why that petition was lodged. Yoninah (talk) 22:05, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

Neutrality concerns addressed and tag removed. Added image from Commons and removed image-requested template from this page. Schazjmd (talk) 20:52, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

Removal of infobox

Hello Schazjmd, you recently removed the infobox from this page, stating that it was useless. What was your basis for this conclusion? Revirvlkodlaku (talk) 05:03, 4 June 2021 (UTC)

Hi Revirvlkodlaku, I like infoboxes, but they don't add value to every article. In this article, there was nothing in the infobox that wasn't in the first paragraph; when an infobox is that sparse, I don't think it's very useful. If you disagree and put it back, I won't argue about it. Schazjmd (talk) 14:00, 4 June 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation, Schazjmd. I'm partial to infoboxes myself, though I agree with you that they don't always add value to an article. I'd like to try adding the image you put on the page to the infobox and see how it looks. Revirvlkodlaku (talk) 14:04, 4 June 2021 (UTC)