Talk:KTOY

Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by Edge3 (talk) 05:09, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

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• ... that the co-founder of Arkansas radio station KTOY, the first Black-owned radio station in the state, continued teaching math after starting it? Source: https://www.texarkanagazette.com/news/texarkana/story/2020/aug/24/tasd-honors-emmie-jo-gamble-distinguished-alumna/838764/

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5x expanded by Sammi Brie (talk). Self-nominated at 04:10, 5 February 2021 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook eligibility:

• Cited:
• Interesting:
• Other problems: - The phrasing of the hook in the article differs: "continued teaching math after starting" is not quite the same as "continued teaching while building out the station"; don't know if "building out" is a technical term that means "after starting" but it isn't obvious that they're exactly synonymous to this person who knows relatively little about radio stations. A minor difference to be sure, but should be resolved. I'm also not thrilled with the unclear antecedent of "it" - starting math? Maybe "... continued working as a math teacher"?

I also think the hook is trying to squeeze in two unrelated hooks: "first Black-owned", and "continued teaching math" - each is interesting, but not really connected; one would still be interesting if she were an Asian math teacher, and the other would still be interesting if she were a Black dentist. That's a matter of taste, of course, so if you fix the phrasing, I can still approve, but ... how about something like "that KTOY was the first Black-owned in the state, and became the first foreign-owned in the country"? Those two seems more obviously connected, as counterpoint, and still interesting. But your call, I can still approve the first one with minor modification.

QPQ: Done.

Overall:  : Side question on the foreign ownership - one source still shows a photo of an all-Black crew, and wearing masks, so clearly a recent photo. Is it still a Black-owned radio station, after the Australian purchase; are the Australian owners also Black? Not strictly a DYK requirement, but seems that it would be good to specify one way or another. GRuban (talk) 17:30, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

• @GRuban: Let me respond to a bunch of these:

• Current ownership: No. The current ownership is not Black, though I'd imagine most of the air staff of KTOY is given the format. (KTOY is co-owned with other local stations that would be more likely to have White listeners and air personalities.) Also worth noting that the Radio Center group's 100% foreign acquisition ruling applied to a whole suite of stations the company already owned stakes in, not just KTOY and not even just the Texarkana market (their largest holdings are in Alaska and I have actually DYK'd one of their stations there, KTKN). Here's a photo of Richard and Sharon Burns. So the ownership notes do not really connect to each other.
• I did make a change to the article to assist with the hook wording issue on teaching.

Hopefully this helps. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 22:41, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

--GRuban (talk) 14:30, 17 February 2021 (UTC)