Talk:KAIT

Adding unreferenced entries of former employees to lists containing BLP material

Hello, Please do not add unreferenced names as entries to the list of former employees in articles. Including this type of material in articles does not abide by current consensus and its inclusion is strongly discouraged in our policies and guidelines. The rationales are as follows:

1. WP:NOT tells us, Wikipedia is "not an indiscriminate collection of information." As that section describes, just because something is true, doesn't necessarily mean the info belongs in Wikipedia.
2. As per WP:V, we cannot include information in Wikipedia that is not verifiable and sourced.
3. WP:NLIST tells us that lists included within articles (including people's names) are subject to the same need for references as any other information in the article.
4. Per WP:BLP, we have to be especially careful about including un-sourced info about living persons.

If you look at articles about companies in general, you will not find mention of previous employees, except in those cases where the employee was particularly notable. Even then, the information is not presented just as a list of names, but is incorporated into the text itself (for example, when a company's article talks about the policies a previous CEO had, or when they mention the discovery/invention of a former engineer/researcher). If a preexisting article is already in the encyclopedia for the person you want to add to a list, it's generally regarded as sufficient to support their inclusion in list material in another article. cheers Deconstructhis (talk) 03:04, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

GA review

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Nominator: Sammi Brie (talk · contribs) 16:58, 8 July 2025 (UTC)

Reviewer: It is a wonderful world (talk · contribs) 14:44, 16 July 2025 (UTC)

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Shall review :) IAWW (talk) 14:44, 16 July 2025 (UTC)

• Take a look, It is a wonderful world. Sammi Brie (she/her · t · c) 03:29, 17 July 2025 (UTC)

  Thanks @Sammi Brie, replies are below IAWW (talk) 09:30, 17 July 2025 (UTC)

Prose (Criteria 1a, 1b, 4) clock

Construction and early years

KATV intended to use KBTM-TV to broadcast its ABC and other programming as well as local news and other programming: "ABC + other" = all programming, which is obviously meaningless. Do you mean "mainly ABC programming"?

• Reworded

ABC affiliation and FCC hearing

Network affiliation provided resources that KAIT had instead been obtaining without permission. In 1966, the FCC fined Hernreich $1,000 for rebroadcasting programs from other stations over KAIT without their permission, as well as other violations: Could you join these sentence together to make it clearer they are connected, and ideally make it a bit more concise?

• Reworded. Let me know what you think.

Looks good :)

ABC rescinded the compensation increases: All the compensation increases Sullivan action, including for KAIT?

Channel and Cosmos/Liberty ownership

KAIT shut down its analog signal on June 12, 2009, and relocated its digital signal relocated from its pre-transition VHF: Double relocated, and I suggest linking "VHF" and "UHF" later on

• Fixed. Good catch; this is not an article where they're otherwise relevant.

In January 2003, KAIT began broadcasting a digital signal.[31] KAIT shut down its analog signal on June 12, 2009, and relocated its digital signal relocated from its pre-transition VHF channel 9 to channel 8 for post-transition operations: As part of the federal mandate and wireless spectrum auction?

• The former, but not the latter (KAIT wasn't repacked).

News operation

KAIT has historically served a larger coverage area than its media market. This is because there are counties where KAIT was the most-viewed station but the stations in Little Rock or Memphis, Tennessee, collectively had higher share, causing them to be drawn into that market.[31] Within that market, however, KAIT has traditionally dominated the Memphis stations as the only local news source: I'm lost with this. I don't see how the viewership numbers have anything to do with whether KAIT serves different areas. I feel like there are some terms have have some subject-specific meanings I'm unaware of.

• Start at Media market. In the United States, TV markets are defined by a ratings company. The metric to define them is which "set" of stations is watched the most in total. Imagine a county in which 30% of the viewing went to KAIT, 20% to Memphis station 1, 12% to Memphis station 2, and 5% to Memphis station 3. The three Memphis stations (37%) are more-viewed than KAIT. That county would be drawn into the Memphis market by the ratings agency, even though KAIT is the most-watched station therein. This is also the case for WBKO historically for the exact same reason (but there are more references available about this phenomenon affecting the availability of WBKO than there are about KAIT).

Thank you for explaining. I think I understand but have one question to make sure. If KAIT was split up into two stations, would that mean the KAIT stations would be their own separate market, as they are now a "set"? IAWW (talk) 09:29, 17 July 2025 (UTC)

@It is a wonderful world The addition of the NBC subchannel could have affected this, but possibly too late. For reasons that are hard to define at first blush (e.g. syndex), DMA lines got a lot harder than they used to be. The short answer is this. Jonesboro was not a defined market by Arbitron, one of the two ratings companies at the time, until 1970, and Nielsen did not do it until some time after. But many markets were "short markets", that is they had fewer stations than major networks. Short markets have almost all disappeared because of subchannels (like KAIT with NBC) and low-power stations (KJNB-LD). Jonesboro has been a separate market since 1970 at least by Arbitron's reckoning, but as a one-station market it was always going to be hard pulling outlying counties into it. Sammi Brie (she/her · t · c) 06:49, 18 July 2025 (UTC)

@Sammi Brie Thanks again for explaining. I'm happy with your changes and think this is ready for GA, so I'm passing now. IAWW (talk) 19:08, 21 July 2025 (UTC)

The first bullet point contains a timescale Bumpass was active ("1970s"), but the second bullet point doesn't.

• Alas, it's not in the source when exactly he worked there. Not much you can do when that happens.

Fair enough

Sources clock

Health/formatting (Criterion 2a) Y

[41] is down

Reliability (Criterion 2b) Y

As always its mostly local news and official documents. I see no issues.

Spot check (Criteria 2b, 2c, 2d) clock

[3]: Y

[4]: Y

[15]: Y

[16]: I think "reliant on movies for most of its programming" is not really supported by the source.

• Trimmed back to merely say movies were part of the lineup.

[25]: I don't think it supports "After KAIT-TV's license was renewed"

• It's a simple chronology item. The announcement was made at the start of 1980. The renewal occurred in 1979.

Yep, fair, not really sure what I was thinking.

[32]: "KAIT shut down its analog signal on June 12, 2009" is unsupported. I'm not really familiar with the technical terminology so I may have missed something, but the rest seems to be supported.

• NewsBank has a transcript (which cuts off at 6:52am for some reason) of the morning newscast in which they shut off their signal at 7am (and it's mentioned multiple times). I'm adding this citation, but it's offline.

Nice find!

Copyvio (Criterion 2d) Y

Earwig finds nothing and I found nothing on the spot check.

Scope (Criteria 3a, 3b) Y

It covers the station's entire lifespan so I'm passing on broadness, but it does seem to be rather short for such a big station.

• KAIT? Big? Hardly! This is actually a small market, the 182nd of 210 in the nation (and, if this GA is approved, en route to be the 202nd with a DYK). It also lacks some of the flashy history that WBKO (a highly comparable station by market size and historical circumstance — these stations made their markets exist!) has.

Fair enough! I was looking at market share and didn't know markets could be really really small.

Media Y

Suggestions (not needed for GA promotion)

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Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by Dclemens1971 talk 02:25, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

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• ... that before he was the voice of Squidward, Rodger Bumpass was an announcer, film processor, and cameraman at an Arkansas TV station in the 1970s? Source: https://encyclopediaofarkansas.net/entries/rodger-bumpass-4473/
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Os Trombadinhas

Improved to Good Article status by Sammi Brie (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 790 past nominations.

Sammi Brie (she/her · t · c) 19:40, 21 July 2025 (UTC).

• Article recently promoted to GA and looks to be in good shape. Article clears Earwig. Hook is interesting and sourced. My one concerns is that it would seem to violate MOS:SEAOFBLUE, with two non-boldlinks text to each other. Can you think of some other way to phrase the hook? Perhaps:

  ALT0a ... that before he was the voice of Squidward, in the 1970s Rodger Bumpass was an announcer, film processor, and cameraman at an Arkansas TV station?

~Darth Stabro^{Talk • Contribs} 04:01, 22 July 2025 (UTC)

I think this is compliant with that policy as "Squidward" and "Rodger Bumpass" are clearly different things. That said, might I suggest the April Fool's hook ALT1: ... that some viewers in Arkansas have been able to watch Kait since 1963?--Launchballer 17:05, 22 July 2025 (UTC)

@Darth Stabro and Launchballer: I'm fine with ALT0a (I didn't think a comma between the two terms would violate SEAOFBLUE, honestly) and ALT1 if the call sign is capitalized, but I also don't want this to sit until April Fool's Day. (If it were a market I had already covered, I might be singing a different tune.) Sammi Brie (she/her · t · c) 17:25, 22 July 2025 (UTC)

@Sammi Brie and Launchballer: I remove my objection. Good to go! ~Darth Stabro^{Talk • Contribs} 17:28, 22 July 2025 (UTC)

Subchannel 8-4

K a i t is now broadcasting subchannel 8-4 which is listed as k a i t 365. I don't do edits here but thought someone might want to check on it and put it in the listing since it's been going on for at least a few weeks. 97.114.167.39 (talk) 00:41, 28 September 2025 (UTC)