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Unnecessary Article?
[edit]Given that this is just a pair of custom modified vehicles, does this really need an article? We don't have an article for every modified vehicle out there, even fully custom ones. This just feels like an unnecessary article. 151.111.138.53 (talk) 21:21, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
- The answers you seek are here Wikipedia:Notability. Jeepday (talk) 13:50, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
- An example of notability is that Jerrari has been described as "could be one of the most significant cars in the history of the automobile" because it foreshadowed what is expected of a luxury SUV in the 2020s, "a luxurious interior, off-road capability, and a meaty engine." Snelgar, Mikey (9 June 2021). "Half Ferrari, half Jeep, this 'Jerrari' might be the world's first SUV". Classic Driver. Retrieved 28 May 2025. - Hope this helps! Cheers, CZmarlin (talk) 22:50, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
- It doesn't really, given that it was already an SUV with those things. 151.111.138.53 (talk) 23:53, 20 June 2025 (UTC)
- The description that I provided above was authored by an automobile journalist and is properly sourced. The fusion of a Jeep Wagoneer and a Ferrari 365 GT was also described "decades ahead of its time," by a MotorAuthority contributor. While "Performance SUVs are common today, in the late 1960s there was only the Jerrari". This creation significantly boosted the Wagoneer's power, increasing its horsepower by over 40% (a jump of more than 100 horsepower). This level of performance was unavailable in any other SUV during the era, solidifying the Jerrari's status as a pioneering, high-performance utility vehicle. Edelstein, Stephen (June 21, 2021). "The Jerrari is half Jeep Wagoneer and half Ferrari 365 GT and it's for sale". MotorAuthority. Retrieved June 23, 2025. Enjoy! CZmarlin (talk) 21:30, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
- This honestly feels more like a sales pitch than an actual, unbiased description of the vehicle. The issue is not sourcing, it's that engine swaps/transmission swaps are not uncommon, so why does this one get recognition?
- It was already an SUV with a beefy engine, off road capability, and luxurious interior. I have a buddy who did an LS swap on an older Range Rover, should that get it's own article? 151.111.138.53 (talk) 00:46, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- I appreciate your feedback, user 151.111.138.53. You have hit on a really important point about how easily vehicle descriptions can lean into a "sales pitch" tone. This is a common problem across numerous automotive articles in Wikipedia. Moreover, I will definitely keep that in mind for future responses to ensure a more neutral and informative style. My apologies if it came across that way.
- You are also right that engine swaps are quite common in the automotive enthusiast world today, and many are impressive feats of engineering by passionate hobbyists. The key difference in why the "Jerrari" often gets specific historical mention is not just the swap itself, but its unique context and impact during its time.
- The Jerrari was built in the late 1960s, an era when the concept of a "performance SUV" simply did not exist. Yes, the Jeep Wagoneers came with powerful AMC V8 engines. Nevertheless, the Jerrari was a pioneering, custom-built vehicle that combined the rugged utility of a Jeep Wagoneer with the exotic, high-performance engine of a Ferrari. This was an audacious and almost unheard-of modification for its period. Furthermore, it was commissioned by Bill Harrah, a well-known casino magnate and avid car collector famous for his unique and often extreme automotive projects, which frequently gained significant publicity and were featured in prominent automotive magazines and books. Its existence challenged conventional automotive categories and is often seen as a precursor to the high-performance SUVs we see today.
- So, while your buddy's LS-swapped Range Rover is undoubtedly a fantastic build and a testament to modern customization, the Jerrari's notability stems from its historical context as a "proto-performance SUV," the exotic nature of its components for the era, and its association with a prominent figure and collection that brought it significant public attention and a place in automotive history. Cheers! CZmarlin (talk) 18:06, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- I'll accept that. Thank you for taking the time to explain it. Cheers to you as well. 151.111.138.53 (talk) 23:42, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- The description that I provided above was authored by an automobile journalist and is properly sourced. The fusion of a Jeep Wagoneer and a Ferrari 365 GT was also described "decades ahead of its time," by a MotorAuthority contributor. While "Performance SUVs are common today, in the late 1960s there was only the Jerrari". This creation significantly boosted the Wagoneer's power, increasing its horsepower by over 40% (a jump of more than 100 horsepower). This level of performance was unavailable in any other SUV during the era, solidifying the Jerrari's status as a pioneering, high-performance utility vehicle. Edelstein, Stephen (June 21, 2021). "The Jerrari is half Jeep Wagoneer and half Ferrari 365 GT and it's for sale". MotorAuthority. Retrieved June 23, 2025. Enjoy! CZmarlin (talk) 21:30, 23 June 2025 (UTC)