Talk:Japan Air System
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| On 17 March 2025, it was proposed that this article be moved from Japan Air System to Japan Airlines Domestic. The result of the discussion was moved. |
Old talk
[edit]I used http://web.archive.org/web/20000417211202/www.jas.co.jp/timetable/e_0002-3/index-j.htm to get lists of destinations for Japan Air System. WhisperToMe (talk) 17:46, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
I'm having trouble finding archived versions! WhisperToMe (talk) 17:56, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
- This one works: http://web.archive.org/web/20010417220453/www.jas.co.jp/timetable/e_0102-3/index-j.htm - or has some that work WhisperToMe (talk) 18:36, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
I'm not sure what to do with this, but this about Guangzhou sounds interesting http://web.archive.org/web/20010303033243/www.jas.co.jp/E_jai3.htm WhisperToMe (talk) 18:45, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
- And the B777 designs: http://web.archive.org/web/20010617165945/http://www.jas.co.jp/E_GATOP.htm WhisperToMe (talk) 22:26, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
History
[edit]- http://www.jal.com/en/history/history/jas/index_70s.html
- http://www.jal.com/en/history/history/jas/index_80s.html
- http://www.jal.com/en/history/history/jas/index_90s.html
- http://www.jal.com/en/history/history/jas/index_history.html
- http://www.jal.com/en/history/history/jas/age_71-80.html
- http://www.jal.com/en/history/history/jas/age_81-90.html
- http://www.jal.com/en/history/history/jas/age_91-00.html
- http://www.jal.com/en/history/history/jas/age_01-10.html
Japanese history
[edit]- http://www.jal.com/ja/history/history/jas/index_70s.html
- http://www.jal.com/ja/history/history/jas/index_80s.html
- http://www.jal.com/ja/history/history/jas/index_90s.html
- http://www.jal.com/ja/history/history/jas/index_history.html
- http://www.jal.com/ja/history/history/jas/age_71-80.html
- http://www.jal.com/ja/history/history/jas/age_81-90.html
- http://www.jal.com/ja/history/history/jas/age_91-00.html
- http://www.jal.com/ja/history/history/jas/age_01-10.html
- http://www.jal.com/ja/history/history/index_90s.html
- http://www.jal.com/ja/history/history/index_history.html
When was JAS disestablished?
[edit]The article is quite inconsistent concerning this question: The infobox says 1 October 2006, the category lists the company as "disestablished in 2005", and the article text reads On April 1, 2004, Japan Airlines (old JAL) changed its name to Japan Airlines International and Japan Air System (JAS) changed its name to Japan Airlines Domestic. Japan Airlines System was renamed to Japan Airlines Corporation to make the most of the JAL brand. At the same time, all JAS flight codes, check-in desks and plane were unified into JAL, and the Japan Air System brand officially ceased to exist. So, which date is the correct one? --FoxyOrange (talk) 14:35, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
Requested move 17 March 2025
[edit]- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: moved. Moved as an uncontested request with minimal participation. Enough time has passed for people to give comment to this move request. @CFA, if you do have an objection, please message me. (closed by non-admin page mover) Jeffrey34555 (talk) 03:40, 14 April 2025 (UTC)
Japan Air System → Japan Airlines Domestic – I just checked some now archived sources that JAS become JAD by 2004 before fully merged with JAL in 2006. The JAS Brand ceased by 2004, so I think we need to change JAS to JAD for these reasons. NBS13QRS (talk) 09:19, 15 March 2025 (UTC)This is a contested technical request (permalink). C F A 21:18, 17 March 2025 (UTC)— Relisting. —usernamekiran (talk) 21:13, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- @CFA, I am inclined to close this as uncontested given that it is listed here that you had contested it, but I cannot find a corresponding discussion in RM/TR's edit history. I would like to give you some time to share your thoughts on this first before closing as such. – robertsky (talk) 03:17, 12 April 2025 (UTC)
@NBS13QRS: Hi! I am aware that the JAS brand ended in 2004. I think usually with historical entities, one does not necessarily use the most recent name, but the most well-known/most common name. One guideline at Wikipedia:Article_titles#Use_commonly_recognizable_names states: "If, on the other hand, reliable sources written after the name change is announced continue to use the established name when discussing the article topic in the present day, Wikipedia should continue to do so as well, as described above at § Use commonly recognizable names." Wikipedia:Naming conventions (companies) states: "Whenever possible, the most common usage in independent, reliable, secondary sources should be used". The question is which name do most present day English language sources use when discussing the subject? WhisperToMe (talk) 04:54, 18 November 2025 (UTC)
Requested move 12 February 2026
[edit]- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: Moved * Pppery * it has begun... 21:08, 26 March 2026 (UTC)
Japan Airlines Domestic → Japan Air System – I read the previous move request. The thing is that this company was known for the vast majority of its life as "Japan Air System" and only was "Japan Airlines Domestic" for a few years. My understanding is that the overall corpus of reliable sources about this company would overwhelmingly refer to it as "Japan Air System". I pinged the Wikipedian who requested the move the other way, but received no response. WhisperToMe (talk) 05:21, 12 February 2026 (UTC) — Relisting. Jeffrey34555 (talk) 04:18, 19 February 2026 (UTC) — Relisting. TarnishedPathtalk 10:13, 26 February 2026 (UTC)
- Note: WikiProject Japan and WikiProject Aviation have been notified of this discussion. Jeffrey34555 (talk) 01:19, 25 February 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose: We should keep its most recent name. Guz13 (talk) 00:55, 2 March 2026 (UTC)
- We should use the common name, so I am guessing that this request should be supported, but it's possible that participation is lacking here because data hasn't been provided. The idea that we should simply keep the most recent name is not rooted in the underlying naming policy. Dekimasuよ! 04:52, 3 March 2026 (UTC)
- Support as Ngrams show a significantly higher usage of JAS over JAD even after the rebranding. S5A-0043🚎(Talk) 08:43, 13 March 2026 (UTC)
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