Talk:Janggeum

Fact vs. Fiction

I made some grammatical edits that I feel are clearly reliable within their limited scope. Accidentally I said they were in the 2nd paragraph, but they're actually in the current 3rd paragraph.

My main topic: This article could use attention from a subject matter expert, given the various back-and-forths seen over time (notably in 2021), and given the persistent ability of fiction (such as Dae Jang Geum) to influence Wikipedia content in areas outside the usual Euro / American topics.

I haven't tagged the article with that "needs attention" warning, in case a comment here will get it done less obtrusively. Not to dismiss Dae Jang Geum as entertainment, in case it has Stans reading this; I quite enjoy it, it's just not a reliable source. CF Dong Yi vs. historical records of Choi Suk-bin. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Codexor (talk • contribs) 00:37, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

Never give up

you know,when i'm watching the korean drama dae jang geum,the story tells me something.The story told me that one should not give up when he or she falls.There's always a second chance to change everything.What about you,mr wikipedia???

hailey thomas,Malaysia.

Name

Is 'Seo' really her surname? The Korean article on Dae Jang Geum states her real name is unknown. Maybe this article should be moved to Jang Geum. --KJ 04:53, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

Seems reasonable. I can't figure out where the "Seo" came from. -- Visviva 08:23, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Its assumed from whoever posted the translated paragraphs from the annals (assuming its legit) that the surname is supposedly Suh/Seo or whatever. BTW which korean article on Dae Jang Geum was referenced that stated "surname unknown"? Roy

대장금 at the Korean Wikipedia. --Kjoonlee 08:03, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Mythos

Jang Geum Seo (jang Gyum Sho) is a cooking wizard that is consisted to become the nurse of the king.. at the end jang geum seo wants by the king to be his queen.. but jang geum dont want because she love her Husband(in the end) jung ho Min... jang Geum become a nurse... because of the destruction done by Lady Choi(madam Choi) to Jang Geum and Madam Han (lady Han).. in that Story: Jang Geum Seo (Jang Geum Min- in the End) Became the National Hero of Korea... but i Think on that story..China and Korea are Known as One Country.and She bacame the Special Nurse of The KIng because of her best friend Yon-Sang. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.54.1.4 (talk) 07:16, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Date

I'm assuming that the if Jungjong's reign started in 1506 then the 18th year of it corresponds to about to 1524-1525? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Abu America (talk • contribs) 11:05, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

The recent expansion

I see that this article has recently undergone a large expansion which has many problems, both in terms of content and in terms of presentation. I'm left scratching my head over some of the specific claims the author of the expansion made. For example, the author asserts that "Jang Geum was an exception as he recognized her skill as a doctor and her unique talent in making medicine into a delicacy (by combining it into everyday food so to make it easier to consume)", a claim which fits the fictionalized account given in Dae Jang Geum, but which appears utterly unsupported by the primary documents pertaining to this person. (edit: one document, improperly cited, and which seems not to be a primary source, does say that she "[treated] illness with food", but that doesn't support any of the characterization the Wikipedia editor added to that notion.) At first, I tagged the article with a number of problem templates, but the more I think about it, the more I realize that this can't be easily fixed, and the current state of the article is simply unacceptable. It pains me to do this, but I'm reverting the article to an earlier state. —Bill Price (nyb) 03:23, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Requested move 7 September 2025

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Jeffrey34555 (talk) 18:09, 21 September 2025 (UTC)

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Jang-geum → Janggeum – After a quick Google search, it appears to me that there is no clear preference for the hyphenated name in reliable sources (Korea.net uses Janggeum). In this case, I find it more adequate that the hyphen is deleted. Firstly, the National Institute of Korean Language discourages the use of optional hyphens (hyphens which denote the separation of the two syllables in a Korean given name), and secondly, it is not certain whether "Jang-geum" was the subject's full given name. Subject has ten passing mentions in historical sources. -- 00101984hjw (talk) 05:49, 7 September 2025 (UTC) — Relisting. Jeffrey34555 (talk) 17:12, 14 September 2025 (UTC)

In any case, "Jang" could have been the subject's surname and "geum" the given name. Or it could have been a nickname or pet name per naming traditions of women during the period. -- 00101984hjw (talk) 05:56, 7 September 2025 (UTC)

Support. My own search for English-language sources was also inconclusive. In addition to these two, Jang Geum also exists. However, I agree that it's not clear whether Janggeum is a given name, surname and given name, or something else entirely, so it's best to choose the nonspecific "Janggeum" rather than "Jang-geum" (implies given name) or "Jang Geum" (implies surname and given name). Toadspike [Talk] 13:26, 21 September 2025 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.