Talk:Jamukha

Jamuqa was kicked to death?

It is an error. According to "The Secret History of Mongols", the Genghis Khan's soldiers broke Jamuqa's back to execute him without spilling blood. I don't think that "to be kicked to death" would be a noble death in any culture. --GenuineMongol (talk) 07:48, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

That was recently changed by an IP. Of course the Secret History is the ultimate source in this case. --Latebird (talk) 08:56, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Frank McLynn's account in his book on Genghis Khan has a rather different account, stating that Jamuga was hacked to pieces in a dishonourable execution, and that the Secret History switched the speakers in dialogue in error. He also holds that the Secret History is not entirely reliable in this and other matters. - Redmess (talk) 01:35, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

Dismembering appears to be a Rashid al-Din version of the story. Btw, Secret History is said by Igor de Rashewilts is to be reliable ONLY when it's version confirmed by other, more reliable sources - Урштаатский (talk) 10:29, 10 April 2025 (UTC)

Image

An image of an actor portraying Jamukha is not appropriate for an article on a historical figure. We don't put pictures of Collin Farrell in the Alexander the Great article, do we? I'm going to delete it. If anyone has a problem with that, please post comments here. Cheers, ask123 (talk) 19:56, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Last words

At some point, wiki mentioned this:

The Secret History of the Mongols states that Temüjin offered renewal of their brotherhood, but Jamuqa insisted that just as there was room for only one sun in the sky, there was room only for one Mongol lord

Later it was deleted, and rightfully so, as SH contains nothing of a sort. Although I heard this version before and wonder if anyone have any idea where from this came, which ways it was made up or anything? Seems like calque from Plutarch's words of Alexander the Great… Урштаатский (talk) 10:39, 10 April 2025 (UTC)