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Latest comment: 7 years ago by Isingness in topic Clean-up

Conflict of interest

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At least one major contributor to this article appears to have a close personal or professional connection to the topic, and thus to have a conflict of interest. Conflict-of-interest editors are strongly discouraged from editing the article directly, but are always welcome to propose changes on the talk page (i.e., here). You can attract the attention of other editors by putting {{request edit}} (exactly so, with the curly parentheses) at the beginning of your request, or by clicking the link on the lowest yellow notice above. Requests that are not supported by independent reliable sources are unlikely to be accepted.

Please also note that our Terms of Use state that "you must disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation." An editor who contributes as part of his or her paid employment is required to disclose that fact. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 18:28, 21 February 2018 (UTC)Reply

Some proposed changes & article restructure

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I propose a wholesale change to this article, including a full restructure and stronger references for review. Added are new sections, dividing up Iwan Wirth's various activities, and extensive research has allowed me to find improved sources and leads. Please review and consider my suggestions.


Advard2 (talk) 15:19, 10 September 2018 (UTC)Reply

Reply 10-SEP-2018

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 Edit request declined 

  1. Portions of this request are insufficiently paraphrased from the source material, per WP:CLOSEPARAPHRASE. All additions of text need to be placed in an editor's own words, using an editor's own phrasing. Kindly re-write the sections which are not paraphrased correctly, taking care to place each instance in your own words using your own phrasing. Anything directly copied from sources ought to be placed in quotations.
  2. Several of the references cited are not appropriate for use in Wikipedia and should be replaced with other secondary sources. These references include museum catalogs, art festival brochures, and links to organizations which have received donations from the Wirth's.
  3. Many of the references are placed in a singular citation style, but many others are not. The citation style used by an article needs to be of one system, consistently used throughout the article. Please ensure that this is so when adding references to the edit request.

Kindly open a new request at your earliest convenience once the article is re-written along these suggestions.
Regards,  spintendo  18:00, 10 September 2018 (UTC)Reply

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Born in St. Gallen, Switzerland to an architect father and schoolteacher mother, Iwan Wirth staged his first art exhibition of copies of Giacometti and Henry Moore sculptures he made himself at age 7. He opened his first art gallery at age 16 in St. Gallen, and three years later set up as a private dealer in Zurich. Born in eastern Switzerland to an architect father and schoolteacher mother, Wirth got the art bug at 7, when he staged his first show — copies of Giacometti and Henry Moore sculptures he made himself... Wirth opened a commercial gallery in their village at 16 and set up as a private dealer in Zurich in 1990.[1]
Iwan Wirth is the President and co-founder of Hauser & Wirth, an international gallery of contemporary art and modern masters. Iwan and Manuela Wirth are Presidents and co-Founders of Hauser & Wirth, a leading international gallery of contemporary art and modern masters.[2]

References

  1. Rawsthorn, Alice. "The Dealer". The New York Times.
  2. "Honorary Graduates". www.bathspa.ac.uk.
Thanks, Spintendo, particularly for picking up on the close-paraphrasing. Actually, there are some rather more serious problems with this request: Advard2 has 13 edits to this project, and none of them is a paid editing or conflict-of-interest editor disclosure. The proposed text is promotional both in tone and in intent, and Wikipedia does not tolerate promotion of any kind.
Advard2, once you have made appropriate disclosure, I suggest that instead of trying an 18k edit request you limit yourself to one of, say, one-twentieth of that size, which addresses (with suitable sources) major errors or omissions of fact from the page – if there are any, that is. Proposing that we replace encyclopaedic content with ill-written adspeak (" ... a hospitality business incorporating Durslade Farmhouse, a guesthouse onsite at Hauser & Wirth Somerset ...", anyone?) is really, really unlikely to lead to any useful result. This topic (Wirth, the gallery, the artists associated with it etc) has a long and tedious history of inappropriate interference from COI editors. What would most help those pages to evolve in the normal Wikipedian way would be if that interference were to stop, once and for all. Any hope of that? Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 18:54, 10 September 2018 (UTC)Reply

Clean-up

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Again, a mess, as is the person's business page. I was going to recommend a merge, but saw the ArtReview listing, so thought I might be being harsh. In any case, I added what I thought were the most obvious SPAs to the connected contributor template here. This space was so filled with fluff that I think I need a break from it to see if it helped here. One thing, I removed an NYT quote that I thought was only used for promotionalism, but think that might have been too harsh again. Would be interested to see what others think. Isingness (talk) 03:06, 12 October 2018 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for this, Isingness – this is on my to-do list. I've rewritten it once, I'll do so again – but probably not today. I'm pretty sure he's notable independently of the gallery, even though that's all he does. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 06:17, 12 October 2018 (UTC)Reply
Ah, I now see that you've already done that. Nice work! Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 06:19, 12 October 2018 (UTC)Reply
I hope it is not all for naught, I thought the gallery page was bad, and then I saw this one... Thank you though! Isingness (talk) 06:24, 12 October 2018 (UTC)Reply