Talk:Ivory A. Toldson

Alma mater

This article in Diverse: Issues in Higher Education suggests he went to Brown and got a PhD from Berkeley. However, several RS say he got his PhD from Temple. The chapter he co-authored with his father in Black Fathers: An Invisible Presence in America says he went to LSU followed by Penn State, and Temple. I suspect Diverse may be wrong.Zigzig20s (talk) 01:05, 21 June 2018 (UTC)

His father

Here is his father's obituary. He may be notable to have an article in his own right.Zigzig20s (talk) 01:25, 21 June 2018 (UTC)

Requested move 21 June 2018

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The result of the move request was: no consensus to move the page to the proposed title at this time, per the discussion below. Dekimasuよ! 09:16, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

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Ivory A. Toldson → Ivory Achebe ToldsonIvory Achebe Toldson – It would make more sense to use his full name, as his father's name was the same except for the middle name. I believe his father may be sufficiently notable for another article. It would avoid confusion to have the full names for both articles. Zigzig20s (talk) 22:01, 21 June 2018 (UTC) --Relisting. GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 00:03, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

• Move to Ivory Toldson per WP:COMMONNAME. Doesn't appear to commonly use his middle initial or middle name and per WP:MIDDLE neither therefore should we. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:26, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

For what it's worth, his twitter account uses his full name. I oppose your suggestion for the obvious reason that he was named after his father, and we at least need a middle initial to avoid confusion. But full names would be even better.Zigzig20s (talk) 14:30, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

Again, read WP:MIDDLE. We don't use full names or middle initials unless they are commonly used. We do not use them simply for disambiguation purposes. That is a cornerstone of WP:COMMONNAME. His Twitter account does indeed use his full name, but external references to him usually use Ivory Toldson or Ivory A. Toldson. However, on closer examination, I acknowledge that his middle initial seems to be commonly used in the body of articles (although not in the headers), so I'm changing to simply Oppose the proposal. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:51, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

• Oppose. The father does not have an article on WP, so there's no title conflict. But even if someone writes an article about the father, his name appears to be Ivory Lee Toldson, so there still would be no conflict. Station1 (talk) 22:11, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

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