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Wiki Education assignment: PODCASTS, RADIOPHONICS, AND SOUND ART

This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 25 January 2023 and 9 May 2023. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): CassMuller41 (article contribs).

— Assignment last updated by I.e.jamie (talk) 17:51, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

Request Edit: Chronological Split and Detailed Addition to History (1996)

• Conflict of Interest: I have a personal and professional connection to Mark Monaghan (disclosed on user page).
• Rationale: I am proposing an addition to the "History" section to record documented milestones in early UK internet broadcasting (1996) currently absent from the article. This is an insertion between the existing 1995 and 1997 entries.

Proposed Addition

Proposed placement: Between the paragraph ending "...stream 24/7 over the internet.[28]" and the paragraph starting "On May 1, 1997, Radio306.com..."

Insert the following text:

In March 1996, Virgin Radio – London became the first European radio station to broadcast its full program live on the Internet. In December 1996, Mark Monaghan established Highlander Internet Radio (HIR) in Strathpeffer, Scotland, which was described by The Scotsman as "Europe's first dedicated internet radio station." The station was the first internet-only radio broadcaster in the United Kingdom to be officially licensed by the MCPS.

On December 24, 1996, Grampian TV broadcast a feature and interview with Monaghan regarding the station's operations. Additional coverage in January 1997 by Grampian TV depicted the station's operational website and studio. During this period, the station's output was included in Microsoft's Music Central listings and reached a reported international audience of 60,000. Notable broadcasts included the January 1997 Burns Night event from St Columba's church in Culloden, Scotland, described by Grampian TV as the first "worldwide Burns Night" which reached an estimated audience of 50,000, including the Moscow Caledonian Society; the event was covered by Grampian TV's North Tonight. Early content also included the broadcast of Sean Connery's independence speech for the Scottish National Party (SNP) and a "Christmas message for everyone of Scottish descent around the world."

References

Verification Notes for Reviewing Editor:

• Scotsman1: Verifies the December 1996 launch and the "Europe's first" claim.
• Wayback: Verifies the physical display of the MCPS license number (NT/MCPS/1001) on the original site.
• NLS: Verifies the December 1996 TV interview regarding HIR operations.
• GrampianJan: Verifies visual evidence of the studio and website operations in early 1997.
• Scotsman2: Verifies the founder, audience reach, and the Sean Connery/Burns Night content.

References

HighlandWriter (talk) 22:50, 2 April 2026 (UTC)

Not done for now: @HighlandWriter: I'm looking through the sources one by one to verify your request. For The Scotsman and North Tonight, I'm having trouble accessing the source. Do you know how I can view these sources?

The other two references do not yet verify what has been written:

• The wayback link shows us it was on their website, but doesn't show us they were "the first ... officially licensed." For that I'd hope to see something from the licensor or coverage from a secondary source.
• The NLS reference shows us a shotlist including INT GVS HIGHLANDER INTERNET RADIO STATION AT STRATHPEFFER - STUDIO + COMPUTER EQUIPMENT IN USE, but doesn't tell us what was covered in the interview like a transcript would.

Thank you for this request, I'm happy to see these changes made when they can be verified. Let me know if you can point me towards these sources or find others. Matthew Yeager (talk) 01:46, 27 May 2026 (UTC)

@Matthew Yeager: Thank you for going through these so thoroughly! You are totally right and I see exactly what happened. The facts are all correct but I tangled the footnote placements across the paragraphs a bit which sent you looking for verification in the wrong places… my apologies for that.

To keep it simple and save you the work of working out a puzzle, here is the same text with the footnotes properly placed to the sources. The videos (Refs 3 & 4) are offline archive clips just showing active operation dates, while the paywalled Scotsman articles (with Factiva IDs below) verify the timeline - the license - and the content.

In December 1996, Mark Monaghan established Highlander Internet Radio (HIR) in Strathpeffer, Scotland, which was described by The Scotsman as "Europe's first dedicated internet radio station."[1] The station was the first internet-only radio broadcaster in the United Kingdom to be officially licensed by the MCPS.[2][5]

On December 24, 1996, Grampian TV broadcast a feature and interview with Monaghan regarding the station's operations.[3] Additional coverage in January 1997 by Grampian TV depicted the station's operational website and studio.[4] During this period, the station's output was included in Microsoft's Music Central listings and reached a reported international audience of 60,000. Notable broadcasts included the January 1997 Burns Night event from St Columba's church in Culloden, Scotland, described by Grampian TV as the first "worldwide Burns Night" which reached an estimated audience of 50,000, including the Moscow Caledonian Society; the event was covered by Grampian TV's North Tonight. Early content also included the broadcast of Sean Connery's independence speech for the Scottish National Party (SNP) and a "Christmas message for everyone of Scottish descent around the world."[1][5]

Paywall Verification Keys for you - Since it is behind a login I believe you can pull up the full text using the official index code?

Ref 1 (Dec 1996 Launch & Connery speech): Factiva ID: sc00000020011019dsci002fh

Ref 5 (March 1997 License & Burns Night/Microsoft): Factiva ID: sc00000020011003dt3q00k9j (Quotes: "first in Britain to be licensed officially on the World Wide Web" and "first to be officially recognised by the Mechanical Copyright Protection Society").

Refs 3 & 4 (Grampian TV/NLS): Strictly offline visual proof of the studio operations on those exact broadcast dates.

I picked out The Scotsman for this request as its the most concise way to verify the text without cluttering the page with multiple sources and it has database IDs. I actually have three other contemporary papers directly stating "first licensed in the UK/Britain" - Daily Mail 26 March 1997, Highland News 5 April 1997, and Inverness Courier 11 April 1997 but these are physical cuttings/microfilm without easy database IDs so I didn't include them to avoid making verification a nightmare.

I do have the broadcast video files for personal reference, as well as those other national newspaper features from then so please... let me know if you require any further secondary evidence or further clarification?

Thank you so much for your assistance. I hope this helps clear up the sources and answer the questions you have?

If it helps to isolate Mark Monaghan from other Mark Monaghans he has a middle initial of I - Mark I Monaghan - I don't know if that is important or helpful?

~~~~ HighlandWriter (talk) 09:17, 27 May 2026 (UTC)

@HighlandWriter: thanks for getting back to me quickly. I know these conversations can take effort, but in the end it will be a high quality contribution! Also we won't rely on dailymail, as the community has reached consensus on general unreliability. The "visual proof" could be nice as images added to the article, depending on the copyright, but we can't draw conclusions from what we see and then integrate that as a source.

For the sources, I'm not sure how to use the Factiva Id to access the underlying pages. If you have access to the relevant pages, you could email those to me (just the 1-2 pages per reference). Usually that means uploading the pdfs or images to a secure host and sending the access information. I would then use those materials for the one-time purpose of verifying and implementing the requested change. Maybe even photos of those clippings would work, if we can verify the newspaper, date, etc. Let me know what route you'd like to take. I'm sorry I wasn't able to find a way to get the references myself. Matthew Yeager (talk) 19:54, 27 May 2026 (UTC)

@Matthew Yeager: Thank you so much, I really appreciate you taking the time to help guide me through this! More than happy to put in the effort - it's not an issue. Completely understand regarding the Daily Mail... that makes sense.

To avoid any email hassles I've put PDF copies of both The Scotsman articles - December 1996 and March 1997 - downloaded from Factiva into a shared folder along with a scan of the original physical press cutting for the 26 March article.

To keep this main thread clean I've dropped the Google Drive link directly over on your personal talk page.

I hope this helps? Thank you again for your help! ~~~~ HighlandWriter (talk) 21:20, 27 May 2026 (UTC)

Done I was able to implement additions which were supported by those two articles. I updated the ordering of some sentences to flow together, and focus on HIR being the subject. I also allowed the ambiguity from the source to come through, particularly "what is claimed to be Europe's first." This can help showcase not that "the first" is in dispute, but how new and cutting edge things were at the time.

Thanks for using the COI Edit workflow! Create another request when you are ready to implement more changes. Please keep in mind volunteers may not spend the same amount of time to help restructure requests. This means going forward it will be faster to review more focused requests. It will come more natural as you make more changes, and so consider contributing to areas that you don't have a conflict of interest also. Thanks, Matthew Yeager (talk) 00:56, 28 May 2026 (UTC)

@Matthew Yeager: HighlandWriter (talk) 09:01, 28 May 2026 (UTC)

@Matthew Yeager: Sir, thank you so much for your time and your guidance. It isn't lost on me the effort you have gone to with this edit and I can't thank you enough for your help.

I also take onboard your advice and my next edit will be the task of changing an "is" to a "was" on an unrelated page of interest! I have learnt a lot from this, and my old semi-retired journalist brain will not take such a large bite from the apple next time.

You're changes and edits are spot on and I am very grateful for your time and help.

Thank you! HighlandWriter (talk) 09:11, 28 May 2026 (UTC)

Edit Request

• What I think should be changed: In the Popularity section:

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An April 2008 Arbitron survey showed that, in the US, more than one in seven persons aged 25–54 years old listen to online radio each week.

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An April 2008 Arbitron survey showed that, in the US, more than one in seven persons aged 25–54 years old listen to online radio each week. The survey estimated a weekly audience of 33 million listeners, up from approximately 29 million in 2007.

• Why it should be changed:

Adds audience growth data.

• References supporting the possible change:

Weekly Online Radio Audience Increases From 11 Percent to 13 Percent of Americans in Last Year, According to the Latest Arbitron/Edison Media Research Study Goldenpen1 (talk) 13:23, 31 May 2026 (UTC)

References

Goldenpen1 (talk) 13:23, 31 May 2026 (UTC)

Not done for now: Thank you for reading the source and proposing a change on the talk page. Two pieces of feedback for you to consider:

• Adding the number of listeners duplicates the next sentence which lists the changes as a percentage. There may be an edit which merges those sentences together to show both percentage and count, if you'd like to pursue that.
• The existing source which you rely on is a republication of a press release. This means it is a primary source even though it is found on another website. We'd hope to find independent sources on the study.

Let me know if you find stronger sources for this, or maybe there is an opportunity to provide more recent data. Matthew Yeager (talk) 17:28, 31 May 2026 (UTC)