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Many of these questions arise frequently on the talk page concerning InfoWars and Alex Jones.
Q1: Is this article biased?
A1: Wikipedia follows the consensus view of reliable independent sources. Sometimes, as with InfoWars, the dominant view is negative. Wikipedia avoids false balance and does not accord undue weight to fringe views. Q2: Should the article describe InfoWars as "fake news"?
A2: Yes. There is clear consensus among reliable independent sources that InfoWars routinely publishes entirely fabricated stories, otherwise known as fake news. Q3: Should the article describe InfoWars as far-right or alt-right?
A3: Both. There is clear consensus among reliable independent sources that InfoWars's political stance aligns with the far right and alt-right. Q4: Should the article describe InfoWars as promoting conspiracy theories?
A4: Yes. There is clear consensus among reliable independent sources that InfoWars promotes conspiracies, most notably the false claim that the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting was a false-flag operation. Q5: Does the number of editors who complain about bias on the talk page, or the frequency of complaints, matter?
A5: No. WP:CONSENSUS does not work that way. Please refer to Q1 for more information on the requirements for a post to merit consideration. It should cite reliable sources that contradict the status quo. Single purpose accounts are often recognized as not being here to build the encyclopedia, a valid block reason. Editing is a privilege to work on the project where free speech does not apply. Posts considered to violate policies (including WP:NOTFORUM) may be ignored, collapsed or deleted (WP:TPO). |
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Let's review, shall we?
Let's review for our newly-arrived Infowars/Newswars/Prison Planet minions, shall we? Alex Jones claims that the US government kidnaps children and makes them slaves at our martian colony, that kids are only pretending to get shot at school and their parents are only pretending to grieve, that Michelle Obama is really a man, that Carrie Fisher of Star Wars fame was killed to boost DVD sales, that the coming New World Order is a demonic high-tech tyranny formed by satanist elites who are using selective breeding to create a supreme race, that tap water is turning frogs gay, that Coronavirus is a hoax, that 5G networks create Coronavirus within human cells (no explanation about the conflict between those last two), that Temple of Baal arches will be erected in multiple cities around the world Real Soon Now, that the Democratic party runs a pedophile ring through pizza shops, that the US government commits acts of terrorism against its own citizens, that Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton are literally demons from hell, that the 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake and tsunami were a government plot, that Obama wanted to detonate a nuclear bomb in Charleston, South Carolina, that FEMA runs concentration camps, that the US is being invaded by South American walruses... Sounds legit to me! --Guy Macon (talk) 15:02, 10 October 2025 (UTC)
Comments / questions
- Q: Why is this here?
- A: It is here because new editors repeatedly come to this page claiming that Infowars is telling the "truth". It is here to save editor time. Without it, we would have to repeat this every time someone comes here and says we are all lying about Infowars. Which happens a lot.
- Q: Isn't Jones just an actor playing a role without actually believing all of that?
- A: It doesn't matter. Millions of people read his webpage and watch his videos, some believe it, and a tiny percentage go to Wikipedia to set us straight.
- Q: Why doesn't this page cover the bit about gay frogs?
- A: We only cover those things Alex Jones says that have significant coverage in reliable sources.
- Q: OK, all that other stuff is just silly, but the bit about South American walruses is real!
- A: No it isn't. --Guy Macon (talk) 15:02, 10 October 2025 (UTC)
8PM ET July 2nd 2026
- The Onion’s rebooted InfoWars is coming July 2nd --The Verge
--Guy Macon (talk) 22:40, 18 June 2026 (UTC)
- Should we move the current article to "Infowars (1999–2026)" so that people don't mix up the original fake news website with the new parody website? ―Howard • 🌽33 11:32, 29 June 2026 (UTC)
- Well, until then I have started a draft for the The Onion's Infowars reboot at Draft:Infowars (2026–present). ―Howard • 🌽33 11:43, 29 June 2026 (UTC)
- Have the court cases finished? Slatersteven (talk) 16:39, 29 June 2026 (UTC)
- Doesn't appear so. It looks like The Onion is going to just start using the Infowars trademark without permission from any court and daring Jones to sue them.
- The Onion already has a deal with the court-appointed manager of the site to pay $81,000 a month to license the trademark and take control of Infowars.com, but that deal -- money that would go directly to the Sandy Hook families -- requires a judge’s approval.
- They have also committed to sharing the profits from using the Infowars trademark with Sandy Hook families. This reverses the entire dynamic. Right now any delays keep the families from getting money, which suits Jones just fine. If Jones sues, every delay will mean more money to the families. --Guy Macon (talk) 18:43, 29 June 2026 (UTC)
- Then lets wait. Slatersteven (talk) 18:50, 29 June 2026 (UTC)
- That's certainly what Wikipedia should do -- nothing. There is a huge human factor here. No judge is going to make any decision that includes "Hey, Sandy Hook Families! You know that cash you just got? Send it to Alex Jones because a third party (The Onion) violated Jones' trademark and gave the profits to you." I don't know what the court would do, but it won't be that. But of course that is me using my WP:CRYSTALBALL. --Guy Macon (talk) 19:08, 29 June 2026 (UTC)
- I can't read the linked article because of a paywall, but I stand by my previous opinion that it is premature to split the article, and that we should adopt a wait-and-see attitude regarding the Onion takeover. Carguychris (talk) 20:40, 29 June 2026 (UTC)
- That's certainly what Wikipedia should do -- nothing. There is a huge human factor here. No judge is going to make any decision that includes "Hey, Sandy Hook Families! You know that cash you just got? Send it to Alex Jones because a third party (The Onion) violated Jones' trademark and gave the profits to you." I don't know what the court would do, but it won't be that. But of course that is me using my WP:CRYSTALBALL. --Guy Macon (talk) 19:08, 29 June 2026 (UTC)
- Then lets wait. Slatersteven (talk) 18:50, 29 June 2026 (UTC)
Article about The Onion's Infowars
Given that it's about to be released in couple hours, I've moved the article Infowars (The Onion) to mainspace as a stub. I think enough sources exist that we can at least discuss it as an "upcoming" work. ―Howard • 🌽33 15:30, 2 July 2026 (UTC)
- I wish you had not; it's not happened yet, and it has a history of the courts stopping it from happening. Slatersteven (talk) 15:34, 2 July 2026 (UTC)
- If it stalls indefinitely or gets cancelled, I believe it would still be notable as an "unrealized project" akin to others listed at Category:Unfinished creative works. Reliable news outlets have been discussing The Onion's Infowars plan for almost a year now. ―Howard • 🌽33 15:38, 2 July 2026 (UTC)
- If it stalls indefinitely or gets cancelled, the topic can likely be summarized in two or three paragraphs, which is short enough to easily contain in the main article about The Onion. The mere existence of the standalone article arguably violates WP:NOTCRYSTAL. Carguychris (talk) 15:53, 2 July 2026 (UTC)
- Or this one. Slatersteven (talk) 15:55, 2 July 2026 (UTC)
- Agreed, either one. I'll also add—as I've stated previously—Jones and The Onion are waging a disinformation and propaganda war against each other, neither can be considered a reliable source about themselves, and unfortunately, some so-called mainstream media outlets that harbor animosity towards Jones are parroting The Onion's claims uncritically. Carguychris (talk) 15:59, 2 July 2026 (UTC)
- Ok it's officially debuted now. Infowars (The Onion) is on for real. ―Howard • 🌽33 00:03, 3 July 2026 (UTC)
- Fine, I'll move it back to draftspace. ―Howard • 🌽33 15:59, 2 July 2026 (UTC)
- Or this one. Slatersteven (talk) 15:55, 2 July 2026 (UTC)
- If it stalls indefinitely or gets cancelled, the topic can likely be summarized in two or three paragraphs, which is short enough to easily contain in the main article about The Onion. The mere existence of the standalone article arguably violates WP:NOTCRYSTAL. Carguychris (talk) 15:53, 2 July 2026 (UTC)
- If it stalls indefinitely or gets cancelled, I believe it would still be notable as an "unrealized project" akin to others listed at Category:Unfinished creative works. Reliable news outlets have been discussing The Onion's Infowars plan for almost a year now. ―Howard • 🌽33 15:38, 2 July 2026 (UTC)
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