Talk:Indore City B Assembly constituency

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The result was: promoted by Dclemens1971 talk 02:04, 10 September 2025 (UTC)

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• Vyanktesh Vishnu Dravid
• Indore City B Assembly constituency

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V.V. Dravid in 1965

• ... that the winner of the Indore City B seat in the 1952 election, V. V. Dravid (pictured), had moved to the city a decade earlier to build a non-communist textile workers union there?

• Source: Rodney W. Jones. Urban Politics in India: Area, Power, and Policy in a Penetrated System. Univ of California Press, 2023.

• • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Organic Law on the Integrity of Political Parties and Candidates, Template:Did you know nominations/Jorge Meléndez

Moved to mainspace by Soman (talk). Number of QPQs required: 2. Nominator has 439 past nominations.

Soman (talk) 16:37, 2 August 2025 (UTC).

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General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

Image eligibility:

• Freely licensed:
• Used in article:
• Clear at 100px: - n

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Article moved to main space by user. Overall, the article is well cited and the hook is also mentioned, with no plagiarism concerns. Although the image is PD as it was created by USGov, the image is not clear at 100px. Other than the image used in the hook, the article is good go. Toadboy123 (talk) 14:49, 7 August 2025 (UTC)

• I have pulled the hook from Prep as I am unsure if the current wording meets DYKINT. Theleekycauldron proposed a revised wording below:

• ALT0a ... that V. V. Dravid moved to Indore build a textile workers' union, spent a year and a half in jail there, and later got elected to the city council?

However, it is also possible that we could also discuss separate hooks for both bolded articles. Asking Soman to suggest possible options; we can revisit ALT0a if separate hooks will not be feasible or there are no other good options. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:14, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

"City council" is factually incorrect. Indore City B was a state assembly seat. --Soman (talk) 23:34, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

@Soman: Would you be able to propose individual hooks about either Dravid or the seat? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:35, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

Is there consensus that ALT0 is uninteresting Narutolovehinata5? If not, why did you pull this completely instead of relegating it to a later set? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 11:03, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

The main reason why I pulled it was to give this more time for discussion. Keeping it in prep but moving it was an option, but it would run the risk of the issue remaining unresolved either way. Pulling it seemed like the safer option: at least we will have more time to discuss possible hook options without having to worry about the clock running. In addition, as it turned out above, Leeky's suggestion was inaccurate anyway, so a revision was needed anyway. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:07, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

Right, so there's no consensus that ALT0 is uninteresting. Promoting this again to a later prep. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 11:19, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

For what it's worth, I asked members of the Wikimedia Discord if they thought the hook was interesting, and five said no. Since it's off-Wiki, it wouldn't really count as consensus, but it is worth keeping in mind. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:24, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

Thinking about this a bit, I wonder if the original hook could have worked better if it was revised somewhat. Something like:

ALT0b ... that V. V. Dravid (pictured), who represented Indore City B at the Madhya Bharat Legislative Assembly, originally moved to the city to start a textile workers' union? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:31, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

The wording also puts focus on his labor activism rather than the election, although it does lose the jail mention. I'm not sure how a revised version that does mention the jailing would work, because personally the mention of him being jailed for his union activities made the overall hook idea (if not the wording) more interesting. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:31, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

I don't think that formulation is significantly more interesting. I also think hooks require consensus to run per the spirit of that guideline everyone cites incorrectly, WP:ONUS. Also, my bad on the city council/state assembly thing, but that seems pretty easily fixable. NLH, could you propose a version of ALT0a that you'd be okay with? theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 21:20, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

Right now the internet is out at home and I can't connect to the internet on my computer; I can try something once the internet is restored. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:27, 30 August 2025 (UTC)

@Theleekycauldron: Internet is still out, but will give this a shot. How about:

• ALT0c ... that Indian activist V. V. Dravid moved to Indore build a textile workers' union, spent a year and a half in jail there, and later represented the city at the state's legislative assembly?

ALT0b might be slightly inaccurate since he did not represent the whole city but only a part of it, but that is only depending on the amount of precision required for DYK purposes. One issue is that Madhya Bharat no longer exists, so mentioning it by name might be tricky as I'm not sure how to present it in such a way that does not make non-Indian readers assume it still exists. I am also still waiting for Soman's response on if he will be able to propose solo hooks for both Dravid and Indore City B. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:50, 30 August 2025 (UTC)

@Toadboy123: As Soman has not responded here despite pings and a talk page message, could you please take a look at ALT0c and see if it is okay, or if another angle/path is needed here? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:17, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

Overall I think the new hook is fine and covers his political career in Indore. So good to go then. - Toadboy123 (talk) 07:18, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

I'm also ok with ALT0c. --Soman (talk) 11:04, 5 September 2025 (UTC)