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Nominator: Akshadev (talk · contribs) 17:03, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
Reviewer: OzmoOzmo (talk · contribs) 07:43, 23 April 2026 (UTC)
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The first thing I noticed was the poor quality of prose in the sections on international cooperations, statistics and heads of ISRO.
In the section "International cooperations", it states too many countries (literally all the way from Afghanistan to Vietnam), and it appears to use definition lists instead of standard subheadings. It also has strange underlining in the section on NISAR (statements should not normally be underlined in Wikipedia).
In the section "Statistics", it only said when it was last updated, and other statistics in bullet points, and then includes a large table. I am not sure what to do with this.
The section "Heads of ISRO" is completely unsourced and all it is is an ordered list and a statement saying it is a list of chairpersons, with incorrect grammar and capitalisation (List of Chairpersons (since 1963) of ISRO. should be This is a list of chairpersons of ISRO, starting at 1963.). ozmoozmo@enwiki$t.c 07:43, 23 April 2026 (UTC)
- This article covers every aspect of ISRO in detail, and seems to not be written from a summary style. Each section is quite long and could be split into its own article, and there are over 10 sections. ozmoozmo@enwiki$t.c 00:13, 24 April 2026 (UTC)
- Could you please tell me which sections those are? Please let me know whether they need to be removed from this article or they need to be upgraded. – 𝙰𝚔𝚜𝚑𝚊𝚍𝚎𝚟™ 𝚃𝚊𝚕𝚔 04:12, 24 April 2026 (UTC)
- In specific, the organisation structures and facilities section should be perhaps split into a list and then the section shortened per WP:SS as it is very long, covers less important aspects of the topic and not crucial to understanding the topic (at least in my knowledge). Comparing this to a similar article NASA, only the history section is this long. ozmoozmo@enwiki$t.c 04:37, 24 April 2026 (UTC)
- I have shortened the section as suggested, and shifted the information to another article. Let me know if there is any other changes to be made in organisation structures and facilities section. – 𝙰𝚔𝚜𝚑𝚊𝚍𝚎𝚟™ 𝚃𝚊𝚕𝚔 05:22, 24 April 2026 (UTC)
- In specific, the organisation structures and facilities section should be perhaps split into a list and then the section shortened per WP:SS as it is very long, covers less important aspects of the topic and not crucial to understanding the topic (at least in my knowledge). Comparing this to a similar article NASA, only the history section is this long. ozmoozmo@enwiki$t.c 04:37, 24 April 2026 (UTC)
- Could you please tell me which sections those are? Please let me know whether they need to be removed from this article or they need to be upgraded. – 𝙰𝚔𝚜𝚑𝚊𝚍𝚎𝚟™ 𝚃𝚊𝚕𝚔 04:12, 24 April 2026 (UTC)
- I have endeavored to implement all your suggestions to the best of my ability. If there are still any shortcomings, please let me know. – 𝙰𝚔𝚜𝚑𝚊𝚍𝚎𝚟™ 𝚃𝚊𝚕𝚔 04:06, 24 April 2026 (UTC)
- Additionally, let me know what to do with the 'statistics' section. – 𝙰𝚔𝚜𝚑𝚊𝚍𝚎𝚟™ 𝚃𝚊𝚕𝚔 04:15, 24 April 2026 (UTC)
- I am not actually sure what to do with the statistics section. It isn't present in a similar article, NASA, though. Perhaps a second opinion would help, because I haven't reviewed articles of this length before. ozmoozmo@enwiki$t.c 04:40, 24 April 2026 (UTC)
- So what's the second opinion? – 𝙰𝚔𝚜𝚑𝚊𝚍𝚎𝚟™ 𝚃𝚊𝚕𝚔 04:45, 24 April 2026 (UTC)
- Should I remove the section entirely or is there something else I can do? – 𝙰𝚔𝚜𝚑𝚊𝚍𝚎𝚟™ 𝚃𝚊𝚕𝚔 04:47, 24 April 2026 (UTC)
- Oh! The second opinion is something new I am about to encounter. – 𝙰𝚔𝚜𝚑𝚊𝚍𝚎𝚟™ 𝚃𝚊𝚕𝚔 04:49, 24 April 2026 (UTC)
- As I said, I don't know what to do with the statistics section. ozmoozmo@enwiki$t.c 11:27, 24 April 2026 (UTC)
- The information in the statistics section regarding the number of launches and re-entry missions conducted by ISRO is fine; however, the table detailing ISRO's budget does not seem relevant to me. Should I delete it entirely? – 𝙰𝚔𝚜𝚑𝚊𝚍𝚎𝚟™ 𝚃𝚊𝚕𝚔 11:35, 24 April 2026 (UTC)
- Now that you told me, I think the budget section should be deleted (the section on budgets seems to fail
WP:STATSWP:NOTSTATS). And also, please convert it to prose instead of just an embedded list, in order to improve the quality of the prose. ozmoozmo@enwiki$t.c 11:47, 24 April 2026 (UTC)
Done, Is it good to go now or is there something else to add or remove? – 𝙰𝚔𝚜𝚑𝚊𝚍𝚎𝚟™ 𝚃𝚊𝚕𝚔 11:57, 24 April 2026 (UTC)
- Alright, I'll start reviewing the sources tomorrow, since it is 10 pm in my time zone. ozmoozmo@enwiki$t.c 12:00, 24 April 2026 (UTC)
- I am assuming you're from eastern Australia. Well okay, we will continue tomorrow. Goodnight! – 𝙰𝚔𝚜𝚑𝚊𝚍𝚎𝚟™ 𝚃𝚊𝚕𝚔 12:05, 24 April 2026 (UTC)
- Alright, I'll start reviewing the sources tomorrow, since it is 10 pm in my time zone. ozmoozmo@enwiki$t.c 12:00, 24 April 2026 (UTC)
- Now that you told me, I think the budget section should be deleted (the section on budgets seems to fail
- The information in the statistics section regarding the number of launches and re-entry missions conducted by ISRO is fine; however, the table detailing ISRO's budget does not seem relevant to me. Should I delete it entirely? – 𝙰𝚔𝚜𝚑𝚊𝚍𝚎𝚟™ 𝚃𝚊𝚕𝚔 11:35, 24 April 2026 (UTC)
- I am not actually sure what to do with the statistics section. It isn't present in a similar article, NASA, though. Perhaps a second opinion would help, because I haven't reviewed articles of this length before. ozmoozmo@enwiki$t.c 04:40, 24 April 2026 (UTC)
- Additionally, let me know what to do with the 'statistics' section. – 𝙰𝚔𝚜𝚑𝚊𝚍𝚎𝚟™ 𝚃𝚊𝚕𝚔 04:15, 24 April 2026 (UTC)
- Is the prose fine now, or is something still missing? Please let me know. – 𝙰𝚔𝚜𝚑𝚊𝚍𝚎𝚟™ 𝚃𝚊𝚕𝚔 05:50, 24 April 2026 (UTC)
- Alright, I took a little break in order to clear my mind. I will recommence the review now. ozmoozmo@enwiki$t.c 11:26, 24 April 2026 (UTC)
- Source assessment table (I will update as I go):
Source assessment table Statement w/ source Reliable Secondary Independent WP:OR Acceptable Status For brevity, the acceptable and paywalled citations have been removed, but are still available via the page history. The Indian Remote Sensing Programme (IRSP) are India's earth observation satellites. They are the largest collection of remote sensing satellites for civilian use in operation today, providing remote sensing services.[1] All the satellites are placed in polar Sun-synchronous orbit (except GISATs) and provide data in a variety of spatial, spectral and temporal resolutions to enable several programs to be undertaken relevant to national development. The initial versions are composed of the 1 (A, B, C, D) nomenclature while the later versions were divided into sub-classes named based on their functioning and uses including Oceansat, Cartosat, HySIS, EMISAT and ResourceSat etc. Their names were unified under the prefix "EOS" regardless of functioning in 2020.[2] They support a wide range of applications including optical, radar and electronic reconnaissance for Indian agencies, city planning, oceanography and environmental studies.[1] First:
Reliable.
Second:
Don't know, but probably more reliable than ISRO itself.
Third:
Reliable.First:
Primary.
Second:
Secondary.
Third:
Primary.First:
Non-independent.
Second:
Independent.
Third:
Non-independent.First:
Does not support the statement.
Second:
Does not support the statement.
Third:
Supports the statement.
Almost non-acceptable.
Present.The Indian National Satellite System (INSAT) is the country's telecommunication system. It is a series of multipurpose geostationary satellites built and launched by ISRO to satisfy the telecommunications, broadcasting, meteorology and search-and-rescue needs. Since the introduction of the first one in 1983, INSAT has become the largest domestic communication system in the Asia-Pacific Region. It is a joint venture of DOS, the Department of Telecommunications, India Meteorological Department, All India Radio and Doordarshan. The overall coordination and management of INSAT system rests with the Secretary-level INSAT Coordination Committee.[3] The nomenclature of the series was changed to "GSAT" from "INSAT", then further changed to "CMS" from 2020 onwards.[4] These satellites have been used by the Indian Armed Forces as well.[5][6] GSAT-9 or "SAARC Satellite" provides communication services for India's smaller neighbors.[7] First:
Official
Second:
Don't know, but most likely more reliable than ISRO.
Third:
No consensus.
Fourth:
Official
Fifth:
OfficialFirst, fourth and fifth:
Primary. Second and third:
Secondary.First, fourth and fifth:
Non-independent. Second and third:
Independent.
Unassessed
Unassessed
PresentThe Ministry of Civil Aviation has decided to implement an indigenous Satellite-Based Regional GPS Augmentation System also known as Space-Based Augmentation System as part of the Satellite-Based Communications, Navigation, Surveillance and Air Traffic Management plan for civil aviation. The Indian SBAS system has been given the acronym GAGAN – GPS Aided GEO Augmented Navigation. A national plan for satellite navigation including implementation of a Technology Demonstration System (TDS) over Indian airspace as a proof of concept has been prepared jointly by Airports Authority of India and ISRO. The TDS was completed during 2007 with the installation of eight Indian Reference Stations at different airports linked to the Master Control Centre located near Bengaluru.[8]
Don't know if this is a practically self-published blog or an edited blog.
Secondary.
Independent.
Does not mention proof of concept, or Bengaluru.
Not acceptable for specific statement cited
Present
ozmoozmo@enwiki$t.c 23:54, 24 April 2026 (UTC)
- Despite an extensive search, I was unable to locate a secondary reliable source regarding ISRO employees. I encountered the same difficulty in the budget section; consequently, I removed the reference, as no citation for the budget is available at NASA either. – 𝙰𝚔𝚜𝚑𝚊𝚍𝚎𝚟™ 𝚃𝚊𝚕𝚔 01:15, 25 April 2026 (UTC)
On hold because I have to finish reviewing Augmented triangular prism, of which I did not see the nominator's reply until 3 days after. ozmoozmo@enwiki$t.c 02:06, 27 April 2026 (UTC)- Not on hold. ozmoozmo@enwiki$t.c 02:38, 27 April 2026 (UTC)
- I should write a user script that semi-automates the source spot checking. Well, I'll go do that. ozmoozmo@enwiki$t.c 08:13, 27 April 2026 (UTC)
This review may take longer than normal due to the length of this article and the fact that I have other things to do on Wikipedia. ozmoozmo@enwiki$t.c 02:21, 25 April 2026 (UTC)
- Too tired for reviewing right now, will continue tomorrow. ozmoozmo@enwiki$t.c 10:43, 25 April 2026 (UTC)
- Prose is fixed, see User talk:OzmoOzmo. ozmoozmo@enwiki$t.c 09:29, 27 April 2026 (UTC)
@Akshadev, I am taking a break from source spot checking, and now am reviewing for image relevance and captions. Here are the ones that need to be fixed so far:
Fixed. ozmoozmo@enwiki$t.c 03:57, 28 April 2026 (UTC) | ||||||||||
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ozmoozmo@enwiki$t.c 02:17, 28 April 2026 (UTC)
- And, that's pretty much the only image that needs to be fixed. All the others are good now. ozmoozmo@enwiki$t.c 02:19, 28 April 2026 (UTC)
- Continuing source spot check. ozmoozmo@enwiki$t.c 02:33, 28 April 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks for fixing several things in the article all by yourself. My concern is that is the status still
Present or is it
Fixed (in 6b assessment table)? – 𝙰𝚔𝚜𝚑𝚊𝚍𝚎𝚟™ 𝚃𝚊𝚕𝚔 03:48, 28 April 2026 (UTC)
- It needs a citation. I have also WP:BOLDly fixed the grammar, so only a citation is needed (since a claim of X being highly dependent on Y almost always requires a citation per WP:MINREF as being likely to be challenged). ozmoozmo@enwiki$t.c 03:50, 28 April 2026 (UTC)
- I couldn't find a reliable source, so I trimmed the caption. Is it better now? – 𝙰𝚔𝚜𝚑𝚊𝚍𝚎𝚟™ 𝚃𝚊𝚕𝚔 03:56, 28 April 2026 (UTC)
- It needs a citation. I have also WP:BOLDly fixed the grammar, so only a citation is needed (since a claim of X being highly dependent on Y almost always requires a citation per WP:MINREF as being likely to be challenged). ozmoozmo@enwiki$t.c 03:50, 28 April 2026 (UTC)
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[edit]- 1 2 Cite error: The named reference
IRSSagawas invoked but never defined (see the help page). - ↑ "ISRO adopts new satellite naming style, RISAT-2BR2 now EOS-01". telanganatoday.com. 28 October 2020. Archived from the original on 2 November 2020. Retrieved 7 November 2020.
- ↑ "Communication Satellites". Indian Space Research Organisation. Archived from the original on 26 February 2021. Retrieved 16 March 2021.
- ↑ "ISRO launches India's 42nd communication satellite CMS-01 on-board PSLV-C50". Business Today. 17 December 2020. Archived from the original on 13 April 2021. Retrieved 19 March 2021.
- ↑ Pubby, Manu. "Indian Navy: Navy to buy Rs 1589 crore satellite from ISRO". The Economic Times. Archived from the original on 8 November 2020. Retrieved 19 March 2021.
- ↑ "GSAT-7A". ISRO. Archived from the original on 22 March 2021. Retrieved 19 March 2021.
- ↑ "GSAT-9". ISRO. Archived from the original on 15 April 2021. Retrieved 19 March 2021.
- ↑ "Ensuring safety and reliabity through indigenous satellite navigation system GAGAN". Times of India Blog. 12 January 2019. Archived from the original on 4 May 2019. Retrieved 19 March 2021.
Biblio
[edit]- Burleson, D. (2005). "India". Space Programmes Outside the United States: All Exploration and Research Efforts, Country by Country. Jefferson, NC: McFarland. pp. 136–146. ISBN 0-7864-1852-4.