Talk:Hurricane Beryl

Storm Names Pronunciation Doesn't List Beryl Anymore As It Retired

We're going to need an archived .PDF file link. YoyoIveGotXP (talk) 18:20, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

@YoyoIveGotXP: - fixed. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 20:00, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

Should the Records be split?

The storm broke several records, and the current section is over 8.8k bytes, so should a separate article be made? Weathereditor123 (talk) 01:02, 14 June 2025 (UTC)

I don't think a separate records article is warranted. Drdpw (talk) 02:18, 14 June 2025 (UTC)

I don't think so either, its fine in the section it has now Weathereditor123 (talk) 02:21, 14 June 2025 (UTC)

Assignment for Class

User:Columbia719

Hi I noticed you keep undoing all my edits. That's fine, but I have a project regarding this wiki due tonight that I need to showcase my efforts in. I made a post in the Beryl's talk page weeks ago regarding this. Right now my focus in on formatting issues and NPOV. I understand you might have anther vision for this wiki, but I am using the Wikipedia formatting guidelines to help me. Can I use your input for my assignment? 11alylove (talk) 00:39, 16 October 2025 (UTC)

GA review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Hurricane Beryl/GA2. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: GiftedIceCream (talk · contribs) 15:38, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

Reviewer: Hurricanehink (talk · contribs) 18:43, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

Since this was a retired storm, I'll review it for GAN.

Lead

• "The second named storm, first hurricane, first major hurricane, and first Category 5 hurricane of the extremely active 2024 Atlantic hurricane season" - source?
  • I don't think any storm article cites a source to that.GiftedIceCream 20:17, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
    • That's because this was once a standard format for lead, so a lot of articles still have it, even though technically it should still be sourced. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 20:46, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
• Don't link the MDR twice in the lead
  •  DoneGiftedIceCream 20:17, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
• "The hurricane intensified further as it entered the Caribbean Sea, peaking as a Category 5 hurricane early the next morning with maximum sustained winds of 165 mph (270 km/h) and a minimum central pressure of 932 mbar (27.52 inHg), before slowly weakening over the next few days due to wind shear as it passed south of Jamaica and then the Cayman Islands. " - too long
  • split.GiftedIceCream 20:17, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
• Somewhere in the article, you need to mention the SSHS, ideally when you first mention "Category X"
  •  DoneGiftedIceCream 20:17, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
    • Are you talking about part that's in the "Impact by country / territory" table? Be careful because the note list shows up in that table, so you putting the SSHS mention in a note puts it there. I mostly meant to mention SSHS in prose, not in a note, such as when you mention Cat 4 or 5 in the opening paragraph of the lead. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 20:48, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

      Oh, done GiftedIceCream 00:36, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

• "Floodwaters more than 6,000 homes in the Venezuelan state of Sucre after the Manzanares River overflowed." - grammar
  •  DoneGiftedIceCream 00:49, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
• Any reason for the citations in the lead? Usually that's not necessary since the lead information should appear in the body of the article
  • removedGiftedIceCream 00:49, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
• Are all damage figures in 2024 USD? If so, that should be noted.
  • TCR doesn't say what year the USD is.
• Can you cut down the areas affected in the infobox? It's extremely long
  • I don't think so.GiftedIceCream 00:49, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

  An other editor shortened it. GiftedIceCream 15:06, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

Met history

• There's a lot of extra spacing. Also, can you make it so the MH is three paragraphs instead of two long ones? Lastly, remove the clear template before the records section, as that's creating white space
  •  DoneGiftedIceCream 15:04, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
• "The National Hurricane Center (NHC) began monitoring a tropical wave emerging off the coast of West Africa on June 25" - check the date of the TW leaving Africa, the TCR says the 23rd. Right now you're just citing the TWO, so this is wrong, as the NHC was likely monitoring the wave beforehand. I'm guessing the 25th was the first date in the TWO?
  •  DoneGiftedIceCream 15:04, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
• Environmental conditions at the time were described as being "unusually conducive" - all quotes need to be attributed, so who said this?
  • removed.GiftedIceCream 15:04, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
• "After entering the Caribbean, the hurricane further intensified into a Category 5 hurricane early on July 2 and soon peaked with winds of 165 mph (270 km/h) and a minimum pressure of 932 mbar (27.5 inHg), recorded by a dropsonde." - since this is the peak, I think you could take more time to describe this part. How was the peak measured? Did the structure change after Beryl entered the Caribbean? The main met details you've included so far are an eyewall replacement cycle and rainbands. You need to talk more about what it was like as a Cat 5. How big was the eye? Where was the storm located at peak intensity? What was the structure like?
  • Added hurricane hunters and location. Can't find anything else.GiftedIceCream 15:04, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
• "Beryl passed near southern Jamaica late on July 3 and early on July 4. " - how close? And how strong was it?
  •  DoneGiftedIceCream 15:04, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
• You mention the wind shear causing weakening, but did anything change with the storm structure?
  • Apparently no.GiftedIceCream 15:04, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
• "Beryl briefly regained major hurricane status early on July 5 but quickly weakened back" - this could be another part where you mention either the eye becoming more distinct, or some kind of change in the structure, to demonstrate the storm getting stronger again. Also, did it weaken again due to the wind shear?
  • Radio SilenceGiftedIceCream 15:04, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
• Does ref 14 really cover most of the second MH paragraph? It doesn't appear so.
  • removed GiftedIceCream 15:04, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
• " Turning north-northwestward on July 7 due to a mid-latitude trough, The storm emerged into the Gulf of Mexico the following morning, steered west-northwestward at 13 mph (20 km/h) by the mid-level ridge located over the southeastern U.S." - capitalization. Also, I'd specify the date when it emerged into the GoM, not the date of the turn.
  • It was on July 5, I Don't know how that got there. I repeated it three times.GiftedIceCream 15:04, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
• "Beryl turned to the north-northwest on July 7" - this is the second time this is mentioned
  • AboveGiftedIceCream 15:04, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
• What's the basis of which Beryl became a hurricane again? Did an eye form, or did Recon observe hurricane-force winds? I notice they're not mentioned in the article at all, but they probably should be mentioned any time observations were from them (like the peak I'm guessing)
  • ReconGiftedIceCream 15:04, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

Preparations

• Make sure all units have non-breaking spaces. For example, I saw a few instances of "4,000 people", but there should be a non-breaking space between the number and the item (4,000 people). See MOS:NBSP
  •  DoneGiftedIceCream 15:23, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
• " the first hurricane watch and storm surge watch for the Texas coast were put into effect on July 5, extending from the mouth of the Rio Grande northward to Sargent" - two things. First the sentence doesn't start with a capital, and second, is it necessary to add the watches before both of the watches were upgraded to warnings? Just thinking that since there is a Texas sub-article, the preparations doesn't have to be so extensive.
  •  Done

Impact

• "Hardest hit were Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, and Grenada. The United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (UN OCHA) reported an estimated 200,000 people altogether in the two nations were affected, representing 100% of the population. Also greatly impacted was Barbados, where the Red Cross reported that 208,200 people, about 74% of the population, were affected by the hurricane." - what does it mean to have been "affected"? I've seen this sort of thing in the past, and usually I skip it, because it doesn't really mean anything IMO. Sure, the whole country was affected, but it's a small island, of course the whole country was affected. I'm just surprised that only 74% of Barbados was affected, when the hurricane was so nearby.
  • Source isn't helping. What do I do here?GiftedIceCream 22:02, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
    • I usually don't include "X people affected." ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 22:11, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
      • RemovedGiftedIceCream 15:35, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
• " It is estimated that insurable losses across region from the hurricane will exceed US$1 billion, according to disaster projections by CoreLogic." - was there any updated estimate? This was from July 2024 right as the storm was making landfall, so I don't think it's reliable.
  • RemovedGiftedIceCream 22:02, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
• "Also, the MV Guidance II, a 150 ft-long (46 m) ferry with five crew members on board, has been missing from nearCanouan Harbor since July 1, when Beryl passed through" - any update on this? This sounds like it was written when the storm was active.
  • Still missing per TCR.GiftedIceCream 22:02, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
    • Yea but the wording is unclear when it's from. I'm not usually a fan of including "missing since" like this. When did the search and rescue mission stop? I suggest finding a source other than the TCR, since that's an American source and you're dealing with SVG. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 00:04, 31 January 2026 (UTC)
• Are there any estimates for the number of damaged/destroyed houses in St. Vincent? What about other forms of damage? For a storm causing 22% of the country's GDP, only one paragraph doesn't seem like enough. You only mention homes and a single resort being damaged. Were any roads damaged? Schools? Power lines? Piers? Boats?
  • I found a Facebook post but I don't know if its reliable.GiftedIceCream 22:02, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
    • Try using the info from the Facebook post to find other more reliable sources. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 22:11, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
      • This should be good. It can also be useful for aftermath.GiftedIceCream 15:35, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
• Do you know the cause of the remaining fatalities in Grenada or St. Vincent? You only mention the cause of a few of them.
  • TCR says that six deaths were due to collapsed structures and two more were due to unknown causes.GiftedIceCream 15:35, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
• "Total damage on the island reached $218 Million." - you also mention Carriacou and Petite Martinique, so I think you mean "Total damage in the country", not "on the island". Also fix the weird capitalization with Million
  •  DoneGiftedIceCream 15:35, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
• Flooding in downtown Fort-de-France reached “knee-depth”. - unattributed quote
  • RemovedGiftedIceCream 15:35, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
• There's a problem with ref 115
  • FixedGiftedIceCream 15:35, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
• The Dominican Republic part bounces back and forth - you start talking about storm surge, then a landslide, then back to waves/storm surge. Can you make sure similar information is next to each other?
  •  DoneGiftedIceCream 15:35, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
• "There were no reports of serious damage." - usually we don't say when things don't happen
  • RemovedGiftedIceCream 15:35, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
• "Karen Clark & Company places storm damage losses in Mexico at $90 million." - why the present tense?
  • FixedGiftedIceCream 15:35, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
• "Due to the impact of the storm in Texas, Amtrak canceled the July 10 runs of the Sunset Limited in its entirety in both directions[142] and had the train run only from San Antonio, Texas, to Los Angeles, California, and vice versa[143] until the July 17 westbound run." - the last part is unsourced. Also, should this be included in preparations when you also mention train delays/cancelations?
  •  Done. The train cancellations were due to Beryl's impact.GiftedIceCream 15:35, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
• "As Beryl tracked into Texas, Houston was directly impacted by Beryl's eyewall. More than 2.7 million lost power." - statewide, or in Houston? It should be a statewide total if you can find it.
  • It is statewide.GiftedIceCream 15:35, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
• " Over 8 in (200 mm) of rain fell in and around Houston, with a peak rainfall amount for the state being west-southwest of the city at 14.99 in (381 mm)" - awkward grammar. You should add where the peak rainfall was.
  •  DoneGiftedIceCream 15:35, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
• The Texas section makes it sound like there were only seven deaths in the state, but the sub-article says otherwise.
  •  DoneGiftedIceCream 15:35, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
• Two EF0 tornadoes and 11 other EF1 tornadoes were also confirmed in the state;[152] the tornado that tracked into Texas out of Louisiana was rated EF1 as well and caused an injury near Bethany, Louisiana and Texas - probably should pipe the link to Bethany.
  •  DoneGiftedIceCream 15:35, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
• "Two tornadoes were also reportedly spotted in Beaumont, one of which caused some roof damage, although this has not yet been confirmed." - how about by now, more than a year later?
  • Not in database.GiftedIceCream 15:35, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
    • Can you change the wording so it doesn't have an open-ended "yet"? ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 00:04, 31 January 2026 (UTC)
      •  DoneGiftedIceCream 15:00, 1 February 2026 (UTC)
        • But it's still open-ended, saying "has not been confirmed". The whole sentence is wishy-washy, also with the word "reportedly" (see weasle words to avoid). And more to the point, how necessary is this to the article? There's already a tornado outbreak article, so the Texas section should be a summary of Texas impacts. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 19:18, 1 February 2026 (UTC)
          • RemovedGiftedIceCream 14:24, 2 February 2026 (UTC)
• You only mention one of the Louisiana deaths
  • There were only one death there.GiftedIceCream 15:35, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
• It doesn't appear you've used NCDC at all. That could help fill out some of the inland states, such as Missouri, Arkansas, Illinois, Michigan, PA, whatnot.

• Have you addressed this yet? ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 00:04, 31 January 2026 (UTC)

• I think this is post-GAN.GiftedIceCream 00:48, 1 February 2026 (UTC)

• But have you checked NCDC? Most of the non-Texas states talk more about the tornadoes (and note, there is a tornado article) than about storm impacts. Having more detail like actual damage would be more useful than "Arkansas was battered". Not having NCDC reports is a pretty notable omission compared to most other retired storm GAs. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 01:58, 1 February 2026 (UTC)

• How do you do that?GiftedIceCream 15:00, 1 February 2026 (UTC)

• Start here with the Texas page already selected, then pick the dates that you're looking for. It will list every event report for the state, and in this link I included everything for the month of July 2024 in Texas. Usually, a ton of them are going to repeat each other, so don't be overwhelmed if there are a lot of reports. Just browse through them and see if there's anything important you missed, like the number of houses damaged/destroyed, or the other types of structures that were damaged, such as schools, municipal buildings, offices, car dealerships. Every storm is different, and the impacts are different. And since the article doesn't have any NCDC reports yet, it's a somewhat major thing that's missing. I think it could add a paragraph or two to several sections. However, that's not enough to affect the article's stability, and since most of the article is in decent shape, I'm willing to leave the GAN open to walk you through adding the NCDC reports. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 19:18, 1 February 2026 (UTC)

• I don't think Texas is a problem as there is a sub-article. I will look at the other states.GiftedIceCream 00:46, 3 February 2026 (UTC)

• Most reports were about one tree down in X. I have added some of the more notable ones.GiftedIceCream 14:50, 9 February 2026 (UTC)

• "The highest gusts were felt at the Coles County Memorial Airport, 45 mph (72 km/h)." - feels like it's missing some words.
  • FixedGiftedIceCream 15:35, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
• I notice you talk a lot about the tornadoes across the US. That makes sense, since that was the primary form of impact in some inland states. Given the size of the Beryl article, have you thought about merging either the Texas or the tornado outbreak article? I know the Texas article was proposed for a merger and it failed, but that was before there was any kind of serious work on the article. It's not necessary for GAN, but keep that in mind if you want to go for FAC.
• "Flood watches were issued in DuPage County." - this feels more like preparations, but also way too specific. Could you be broader, like "The NWS issued widespread flood watches and warnings"? You could probably cite the WPC advisories for that.
• "Highest recorded rainfall totals occurred in Genesee County: 7.06 in (179 mm) at Richfield Center, and 6.79 in (172 mm) in Burton.[187] Elsewhere, the top rainfall report was 5.95 in (151 mm) in Marshall, in Calhoun County." - the last part isn't really accurate if the "top rainfall report" was less than what you already mentioned.

• Is there a reason you two Michigan rainfall totals still? I don't think the 2nd observation adds anything. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 00:04, 31 January 2026 (UTC)

• RemovedGiftedIceCream 00:48, 1 February 2026 (UTC)

• " rainfall falling" - watch out for redundant words like this
• "Towns in northern New Hampshire were severely damaged, while roads were damaged and some bridges" - how many roads/bridges damaged? Any statewide figures?
• "Due to the flooding, around 20 people were left stranded at a Walmart and required rescuing. " - where?
• The aftermath section has several unattributed quotes. Also, it just starts out in the middle of a thought about Texas.

• The aftermath section still just randomly starts about Texas. Why does it start there, when the impact section and Met history start in the Caribbean? ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 00:04, 31 January 2026 (UTC)

•  DoneGiftedIceCream 00:48, 1 February 2026 (UTC)

• "CenterPoint regulatory policy vice president Brad Tutunjian defended the gradual pace of CenterPoint's revival of the power grid by stating that restoring power for over one million customers was "a monumental number". He stated that the biggest difficulty was restoring power to lines and towers destroyed or damaged by fallen trees or branches. When press reporters questioned why CenterPoint wasn't more vigilant about trimming branches or putting more power lines underground, Tutunjian stated the company put many power lines underground over decades. He denied suggestions to employ third-party workers to stay in the storm in order to get power running quicker as unsafe. CenterPoint reported that most of its 12,000 recovery workers brought in to respond Hurricane Beryl were mobilized to near the Texas-Mexico border along the Gulf Coast based on earlier hurricane track predictions." - this feels like a press release, and not part of an encyclopedia entry.

• Sorry but it's still not clear here. The current wording is vague. How many restaurants? What happened with the lawsuit? Did CenterPoint Energy do anything because of the storm? ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 00:04, 31 January 2026 (UTC)

I removed it awhile ago. GiftedIceCream 00:43, 1 February 2026 (UTC)

The part about restaurants is still there. What happened with the lawsuit though? Did CenterPoint Energy do anything because of the storm? ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 01:58, 1 February 2026 (UTC)

Paywall. I have done the rest of the changes. GiftedIceCream 15:00, 5 February 2026 (UTC)

Double check the reference formatting, it looks like it got messed up here. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 18:03, 5 February 2026 (UTC)

Fixed GiftedIceCream 20:17, 5 February 2026 (UTC)

• "According to the Houston Solid Waste Management Department, more than 1.7 million cubic yards of debris were collected during the first cleanup phase. This number would later grow to over 4.7 million yards, eventually removed after multiple passes." - why is the first cleanup phase mentioned when we have a total?
• "Earlier that month" - don't start a paragraph with an unclear date reference
• "As of October 2025, recovery continues" - why the present tense?
• There's practically nothing about FEMA disaster areas. It looks like parts of NY, Vermont, and New Hampshire were also a disaster area. Also, the FEMA page for Texas has more info, mainly how much the federal government gave out plus media reports.

The article is decent, but for a retired storm, it's lacking. Still, most of the issues here should be pretty easy to address, and I can help out with any of the comments you are having issues with. Let me know if you have any questions. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 18:43, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

@Hurricanehink Can you use actual headers instead of pesudoheads? It makes it hard to reply, esp. with a review that is one-tenth the size of the article. GiftedIceCream 15:27, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

Done. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 17:20, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

@Hurricanehink I have done all of the comments. GiftedIceCream 15:03, 30 January 2026 (UTC)

I really appreciate all of your edits so far. Just a few more replies. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 00:04, 31 January 2026 (UTC)

Comment about Caribbean coverage

I have some concerns about the amount of information on Beryl's impacts on the Caribbean currently present in the article. Considering the destructiveness of Beryl in Jamaica ($32 billion Jamaican dollars?!), Grenada, and St. Vincent, I'm surprised there's only one paragraph each on the impact in each region, and little in the aftermath aside from foreign aid. There are plenty of sources dated outside the first week of July 2024 that aren't used in the article:

• UN IOM situation report from 9 July 2024 talking about damage and emergency shelter operation/occupancy in Grenada, SVG, and Jamaica
• OCHA second situation report, dated 13 July 2024, talks about infrastructural and agricultural damage, and a bit about the immediate response
• WHO PAHO public health situation analysis from 19 July 2024, mentioning impacts in Grenada, SVG, and Jamaica
• UNICEF situation report dated 14 August 2024, talks about damage to schools and distribution of hygiene kits
• IFRC initial assessment report dated 19 August 2024, mentions damage to public utilities and sanitation, interrupted livelihoods, and occupancy of shelters, as well as more detailed descriptions of Clarendon, Manchester, and St. Elizabeth
• Caribbean National Weekly article on 2 September 2024 mentioning financial assistance for citizens rebuilding their homes
• Jamaican government press release dated 18 September 2024 which gives the total value of said financial assistance, and brings up other UN programmes
• Jamaican government's post-disaster needs assessment (including damage breakdown by sector), dated December 2024
• While the main focus of this article is Melissa a year later, Jamaica's request to IMF for further financial aid in January 2026 does point out that economic recovery from Beryl was going well before Melissa hit.

All of these came from the first page of a search of the phrase "hurricane beryl jamaica damage loss assessment".

The existing content in the Caribbean sections look like it needs more fleshing out too:

• "200,000 people altogether in the two nations were affected, representing 100% of the population" - considering the size of SVG and Grenada it wouldn't take more than a few thunderstorms to affect the entirety of both islands
• The SVG section mentions "extensive" or "considerable" damage on several islands but doesn't elaborate at all

I recognise that GA criteria 3A (addresses the main aspects of the topic) isn't that strict (and perhaps some of the sources here could be saved for a future FA push), but seeing as damage in the Caribbean was a major factor contributing to Beryl's retirement I thought I would find more than a couple of paragraphs in here. I'll let Hurricanehink decide if this is too much work for the GAN though (or if I'm asking too much of GAs instead). Best, ~ KN2731 {talk · contribs} 21:26, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

@KN2731: - I agree that these sources are better for a future FA push, unless there's anything major missing currently, namely St. Vincent and the Grenadines. My main worry for a GAN is if the grammar/writing is there, and if nothing major is missing. FAC is much more strict about comprehensiveness. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 00:13, 24 January 2026 (UTC)

Fair enough then - I think I underestimate the allowed gap between the average GA and FA these days. GiftedIceCream feel free to treat my comment as a non-urgent post-GAN/pre-FAC review instead. ~ KN2731 {talk · contribs} 20:29, 25 January 2026 (UTC)

Meteorological History Article

With all the information in the Meteorological History section with the records, I think a separate article is needed now. ~2026-36568-31 (talk) 15:37, 14 July 2026 (UTC)

No, the article is only 5,600 words. If anything, the Texas sub-article should be merged. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 15:56, 14 July 2026 (UTC)

Yeah, the Texas impact section is nowhere long enough to need a separate article. HurricaneMelissaFan (talk) 21:06, 16 July 2026 (UTC)

Plus, the Texas sub-article is only 2567 words, which could easily be merged into this article. HurricaneMelissaFan (talk) 21:12, 16 July 2026 (UTC)

Consensus was tentatively found against a split as merging the Texan subarticle would put this article over lower size recommendations for splitting. ✶Quxyz✶ (talk) 00:57, 17 July 2026 (UTC)