Talk:Hotel Marcel

New references

• links from this site
• http://newhavenmodern.org/system/dragonfly/production/2013/12/04/16_58_43_250_HRI_NewHaven_SargentDrive_400.pdf
• https://dailynutmeg.com/2022/08/11/hotel-marcel-checking-it-out/
• https://hospitalitydesign.com/projects/hotels-resorts/hotel-marcel-new-haven/
• https://www.newhavenindependent.org/article/hotel_marcel
• https://www.dezeen.com/2022/09/13/docomomo-us-modernism-awards-2022/
• https://www.thedailybeast.com/that-weird-building-on-side-of-highway-is-actually-famous-and-now-a-hotel
• https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/new-englands-new-breed-of-design-hotels-rqrp0sb7g?fbclid=PAAaYMkaqFuS7YUF0wisjzh1lbx5_0Mt_M2i3eC64PcN32kEQ7O2cnrM27R_8
• https://interiordesign.net/projects/dutch-east-design-becker-and-becker-marcel-breuer-new-haven/
• https://www.nxtbook.com/emerald/hd/202209/index.php#/p/92
• https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/best-net-zero-hotels-cmd/index.html
• https://www.docomomo-us.org/news/announcing-the-winners-of-the-2022-modernism-in-america-awards

--ɱ (talk) 02:05, 11 October 2022 (UTC)

GA review

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This review is transcluded from Talk:Hotel Marcel/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: Epicgenius (talk · contribs) 01:05, 14 December 2025 (UTC)

Reviewer: ZKang123 (talk · contribs) 09:41, 8 June 2026 (UTC)

Will check this out.--ZKang123 (talk · contribs) 09:41, 8 June 2026 (UTC)

Prose

Lead:

• in the Brutalist style not sure if "the" is needed.
  • In American English, the phrasing "in the X style" is correct. It's different in other varieties of English, but in the US, the "the" is customary for such phrases. - EG
• The structural system is made of steel and concrete, and the upper floors are suspended from a series of trusses at the roof. The combined sentence reads a little oddly to me, but I guess the latter sentence is still related to the structural system.
  • I reworded it a bit to make it more clear that the second half is related to the first half. - EG
• I find the lead might get a little too detailed on some of the architectural details. Like Inside, the lobby floor has a reception area and a lounge. Might just say "the ground floor is the lobby and the other floors are the hotel rooms and an event space on the roof."
  • I trimmed this a little. - EG
• The hotel, which opened in May 2022, operates as a zero-energy building. Might mention the solar panels since it's not exactly meaningful on its own
  • Done. Actually, I moved this to the second paragraph as it seemed a little tangential to the history of the building. - EG

Site:

• The building was originally set within a lawn, but that landscape was replaced by parking in the 2000s. – The building was originally set within a lawn, which was replaced by parking in the 2000s.
  • Done. - EG
• The hotel adjoins an IKEA store to the south, which stands directly south of the building. South is repeated
  • Done. - EG
• The hotel provides an electric shuttle van service for guests without cars,[12][13] operating to and from Union Station. – The hotel operates an electric can shuttle service between the hotel and Union Station for guests without cars.
  • I moved the "Union Station" phrase. However, the phrase "electric van shuttle service" reads a bit weirdly to me; the noun phrase here is "shuttle van", rather than just "van". - Epicgenius (talk) 14:22, 9 June 2026 (UTC)

Architecture:

• During the hotel conversion, the original windows were replaced with triple-glazed panes to reduce fluctuations in inside temperatures Would "reduce temperature flactuations indoors" be better?
  • I changed it to "reduce indoor temperature fluctuations". - EG
• The foundation is composed of 758 deep foundations, since the building is constructed on what was once mudflats. I think the part "what was once mudflats" could be more concise
  • Changed to "former mudflats". - EG
• Is it known how deep the foundations are? (I took engineering heh)
  • The sources I consulted did not say how deep the foundations are. Funnily, although this building received a lot of coverage about its engineering, most of it had to do with the above-ground superstructure. - EG
• The building was one of the first As in, in the world?
  • Clarified that it was among the first in the US. - EG
• seven 50-ton trusses A conversion is missing here
  • Fixed. - EG
• The exterior curtain wall was also suspended from the trusses So now they are not?
  • Fixed (they were, but also still are). - EG
• After the hotel's completion, the elevators were retrofitted so that they generated energy for the hotel as they braked. You mean they still generate energy. Also might link regenerative braking.
  • Done. - EG
• hotel rooms, a restaurant, a bar, and event space. an event space
  • Fixed. - EG
• The eighth floor contained the executive suite should be present tense? Unless the suite belonged to the original function.
  • Yeah, the "executive suite" belonged to the previous tenants. The current hotel rooms in that same location are not known as the executive suite. - EG
• The former executive offices comprise the hotel's largest guestrooms. Might say The former executive offices were converted into the hotel's largest guestrooms.
  • Done. - EG

Will check the history. More to come.--ZKang123 (talk · contribs) 09:37, 9 June 2026 (UTC)

History:

• As such, the company, under the tenure of its vice president Joseph R. Armstrong, wanted to expand. This sentence reads a bit oddly
  • Changed to "Under the tenure of its vice president Joseph R. Armstrong, the company wanted to expand." - EG
• and the architect had also recently completed the UNESCO Headquarters, and 945 Madison Avenue. A bit of an odd comma here unless you can raise another third example
  • Removed. - EG
• because drivers on the highway would have been able to see only a massive roof, – because drivers on the highway would only be able to see a massive roof,
  • Reworded. - EG
• because the feature was so unusual "so unusual" sound a bit unencyclopedic
  • Reworded. - EG
• As an alternate Probably "As an alternative"?
  • Oops, yeah, that is what I meant. - EG
• Optional for GAN, but would add inflated values especially those pre-1990
  • Done for pre-2000s values. - EG
• ultimately owned the building for 18 years Ultimately doesn't seem necessary here.
  • Done. - EG
• The purchase initially included four of Armtek's manufacturing facilities across the US, but not the New Haven offices and a fifth manufacturing plant in Arkansas, which were added to the transaction that May. Might rewrite to: The purchase initially included four of Armtek's manufacturing facilities across the US. The New Haven offices and a fifth manufacturing plant in Arkansas were added to the transaction that May.
  • Done. - EG
• Westfield America purchased the site in March 2001,[107] paying $20 million – Westfield America purchased the site in March 2001 for $20 million
  • Done. - EG
• Although there were rumors that the Pirelli Tire Building was to be redeveloped Rumours among whom?
  • Clarified. - EG
• expressed interest in buying the building's 19-acre (7.7 ha) site Why is the site size first mentioned here?
  • Done. - EG
• By the way, I'm curious if there are photos of the former lawns before they were razed for the parking lots
  • There are (Robert McCarter's 2024 book, cited in this article, has one). However, unfortunately I don't think there are any that are specifically CC-licensed. - EG
• were sent to the NPS offices in Washington, D.C., for review need to explain the abbr
  • Done. I forgot that I didn't abbreviate National Park Service in the previous sentence. - EG

Impact:

• The New Haven Register called it an "empty white elephant with little hope of 'logical reuse'",[156] and another writer for the same newspaper wrote that the "once proud and even sexily zesty building responding to high-speed traffic has become a symbol of sad uselessness" Might add the dates
  • Done. - EG
• Try to avoid essay-like phrases like "In addition"
  • Done. - EG

That's all for prose review. Will do a source spot-check--ZKang123 (talk · contribs) 12:30, 11 June 2026 (UTC)

• Thanks for the comments. I've now addressed them all. Epicgenius (talk) 15:17, 11 June 2026 (UTC)

Source review

• Per this revision
• Ref 1, 13, 14, 26, 31, 36, 39, 44, 52, 61, 65, 72, 78, 81, 103, 128, 160, 163, 167 check out.
• Ref 4 – Is that an actual page number?
  • It is. American newspapers tend to have alphanumeric page numbers for issues with multiple sections. Sometimes the alphabetical prefix or suffix is several letters long. - EG
• Ref 11 – is Hotelmanagement.net reliable?
  • Yeah, it seems to be a legitimate online magazine with an editorial team. - EG
• Ref 39 – Keep either the publication or website parameter
  • Removed the publisher. - EG
• Ref 54 – CNN should be work parameter.
  • I think (not sure) that the convention for channels such as CNN, CBC, BBC, etc. is to have these in the publisher parameter instead. - EG
• Ref 65 – Might also wikilink to American cuisine
  • Done. - EG
• I have a bit of trouble assessing the NPS document (seems to be blocked on my side for some reason). Using the web archive
  • That is strange. I've heard rumors that some state governments restrict non-US access to their websites, but I can't really confirm this for myself. - EG
• Ref 91 – Kind of need a quote from the source to see how it supports
  • Photo caption: "In the background at left is the multi-storied Armstrong Rubber Co. headquarters". There is a picture of this building in the indicated location. - EG
• Ref 110 – I see you have a subscriber access parameter here. Optional for GAN, but to keep source formatting consistent, you might need to put subscriber access for the newspaper.com, NYT and Telegraph sources.
  • Done. - EG
• Also, either the NYT sources have ISSN or none. Preferably none.
  • Removed all the ISSNs, as only the Hartford Courant and one of the NYT sources had it. - EG
• Ref 115 – "at least a dozen lawsuits over the mall had been filed by mid-2000.: Seems to be supported by the fact that the article mentioned this is the 16th lawsuit.
  • @ZKang123: Thanks again for the review. I've done all of these. Epicgenius (talk) 14:36, 12 June 2026 (UTC)

That's all for source review. Putting review on hold.--ZKang123 (talk · contribs) 04:24, 12 June 2026 (UTC)

Passed.--ZKang123 (talk · contribs) 00:02, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

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Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by NewAccount7295 (talk) 14:32, 27 July 2026 (UTC)

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The Hotel Marcel in New Haven, Connecticut

• ... that to circumvent local restrictions, a sign outside the Hotel Marcel (pictured) was built with a door? Source: The Pirelli Building (PDF) (Report). Connecticut Historical Commission. 2000.
  • ALT1: ... that before the Armstrong Rubber Company Building (pictured) became a hotel, it was used for a counterterrorism drill and art? Source: Kaempffer, William (February 10, 2007). "Pirelli building site of terror drill". New Haven Register. p. A1; Fritchley, Sarah (August 10, 2017). "Placing Pieces of Local History in an Empty Marcel Breuer Building". Hyperallergic.; Turmelle, Luther (January 7, 2020). "New Haven hotel building boom gets a new entry with Pirelli building". New Haven Register.
  • ALT2: ... that before the Armstrong Rubber Company Building (pictured) became a hotel, it was nearly demolished for parking, then abandoned for two decades? Source: Hawthorne, Christopher (February 1, 2003). "Disposable Architecture". Metropolis; O'Leary, Mary E. (July 7, 2020). "Pirelli building conversion to a hotel on Long Wharf moving on schedule". New Haven Register.
  • ALT3: ... that the Armstrong Rubber Company Building (pictured) in New Haven, Connecticut, was redesigned because the mayor didn't want to see the roof from the nearby highway? Source: Historic Structures Report: Armstrong Rubber Company Building (PDF) (Report). National Register of Historic Places, National Park Service. 2021. p. 12.
  • ALT4: ... that the Hotel Marcel (pictured) has been called both Connecticut's ugliest building and one of New England's best hotels? Source: Hilburg, Jonathan (May 7, 2021). "The retool of an aging Marcel Breuer showstopper takes the high road". The Architect's Newspaper; Rosenberg, Nathaniel. "Seven CT hotels among best in New England, according to Condé Nast Traveler". CT Insider
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Workers' Party (Serbia)
  • Comment: Second QPQ: Sid Brooks

Improved to Good Article status by Epicgenius (talk). Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 805 past nominations.

Epicgenius (talk) 15:45, 16 June 2026 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: All looks good. The article became GA on 12 June and submitted to DYK on 16 June. No copyright issues, Earwig's Copyvio Detector gives 30% flagging mostly names. Long enough. Two QPQs were done. Picture used has appropriate licence + free, and it is clear. The hooks are mentioned in the text. All hooks are interesting, but I prefer ALT0 and ALT4. A.Cython(talk) 22:45, 17 June 2026 (UTC)