Talk:Histrionic personality disorder
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Vioaltion against APAs copyright
[edit]Following link from APA says one need permission at first to reproduce DSM. Furthermore, it seems they only consider reproduction when it comes to password protected websites, or for educational purposes. Anyhow, I doubt there is any permission here.
https://www.appi.org/Support/Customer-Information/Permissions#Reprints
Copyright queries
[edit]"quotes from the manual are NOT COPYRIGHT PROTECTED - they are free to be reproduced)"
The above needs a citation where the author of the manual has relinquished copyright. --mav
- I removed the prevalence stats, because they aren't in the external link, and such a claim needs some kind of evidence, I feel. More importantly, we need to say who said it, so that people who are anti-psychiatry can accept the article as NPOV. Martin
Note: The text in this article was substantially similar to that on http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/001531.htm which is marked as "Copyright 2002 A.D.A.M., Inc". Note that presence on a .gov site does not necessarily imply that material is in the public domain! In addition, if it is claimed that this material is from "the manual" ie. the DSM-IV, note that that too is copyrighted, this time by the American Psychiatric Asociation.
I have thus removed it, as per copyright policy.
- Read the source. It's explicitly public domain. Tannin 21:56 Feb 14, 2003 (UTC)
- "Government information at NLM Web sites is in the public domain. Public domain information may be freely distributed and copied, but it is requested that in any subsequent use the National Library of Medicine (NLM) be given appropriate acknowledgement."
- Actually, if you read the copyright FAQ on the NIH site (http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/faq/copyrightfaq.html), it specifically says that the Adam material is copyrighted. - CE
History section deleted
[edit]The "history" section endlessly and repeatedly conflated HPD and hysteria. If we want to make that claim, it will have to be well-supported. Temerarius (talk) 16:42, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
- This article https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4585318/#B18 cites P Chodoff, American Journal of Psychiatry, 1974 which concludes mentioning a proposal to the DSM-II to change hysteria to histrionics, in order to avoid some of the issues of the classical diagnosis. The first article acknowledges the difference in etymology discussed elsewhere in this talk page, yet presents some evidence of a diagnostic-wise historical connection between histrionics and hysteria.
- I am no expert in the field, so I will not make a change. But what happened is I was alerted to this connection, came to Wikipedia to check, found nothing, read the talk page, promoted the view that the connection was none because the etymology was wrong, and was hit on the head by the articles cited. So I think someone in the know should change it appropriately. 189.6.254.62 (talk) 20:39, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
Flamboyant appearance
[edit]Again those with flamboyant self-expression through appearance, body art, and modifications get targeted by the supposed "professionals" who should be advocating for self-expression, however flamboyant, as an extremely important and healthy part of an individual's personal identity. It's like they’re trying everything they can to keep those who look different in flamboyant ways such as art and ink from being fully accepted in society. Kicking a marginalized group while it's down. We don't even have legal protections against discrimination for our appearances and they’re still considered a mere "choice." So now flamboyant self-expression through appearance is part of the criteria for a disorder? 2601:98A:400:9B60:5DF5:411A:2973:13AA (talk) 23:03, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
- Old conversation, but this isnt the place to discuss the disorder itself. Would love to, but go to a PD forum instead, 120.159.180.171 (talk) 14:32, 18 October 2025 (UTC)
Request for input regarding prevalence
[edit]I have noticed that the article makes contradictory claims about the prevalence of HPD, and thus noted it using a banner on top of the article. I consider performing some other tasks meanwhile, but I might go WP:BOLD if no input is received. However, I note this here also for the sake of transparency. BlockArranger (talk) 20:04, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
- That's decent, although since you're noting it anyway it would've been helpful to point out which and where those claims are supposed to be. Is this about the purported difference with regard to prevalence in males and females, or about prevalance overall? As for the latter I see just a single claim, 1.84%: undersourced but contradictory it is not. The former has about 65% females, shortly after repeated as "at least two thirds". Where's the contradiction? Apparently there are scattered studies suggesting otherwise ("have been a few exceptions"), but anything else would be surprising just considering how understudied this condition is. Have you already removed the relevant content? -2001:9E8:6A90:1200:8ACE:4D3A:E008:DF0A (talk) 12:15, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
sexual become parental?
[edit]does this mean anything
Some people with histrionic traits or personality disorder change their seduction technique into a more parental style as they age. (22) 148.252.146.90 (talk) 05:31, 12 August 2025 (UTC)
- I might look into this soon, but in case you have time, you can check out the source and see what it means, and then clarify it in the article. BlockArranger (talk) 11:21, 12 August 2025 (UTC)
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