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Latest comment: 4 months ago by Eigenbra in topic Table is just wrong

New material?

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Bacher, Roland (2008). "A new inequality for the Hermite constants". International Journal of Number Theory. 4 (3): 363–386. doi:10.1142/S1793042108001390.

66.177.56.143 (talk) 13:57, 14 July 2008 (UTC)Reply

"Linearly in n"?

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The article says that "the Hermite constant grows linearly in n as n becomes unbounded", but the "estimates" are clearly exponential and not linear! --Erel Segal (talk) 12:29, 19 July 2015 (UTC)Reply

Confusion on the 2D Hermite constant

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I'm confused. A fundamental region of a hexagonal lattice is a 120 degree rhombus. When the area of such a rhombus is 1, the resulting side lengths are not 2/sqrt(3). Instead, the length is sqrt(2/sqrt(3)). Am I incorrect in thinking that the shortest distance between 2 points in the lattice is supposed to be 2/sqrt(3)? BagLuke (talk) 20:02, 7 October 2023 (UTC)Reply

David Eppstein Mind taking a look? Don't want my image to be incorrect, and want to know how to correct it if it is. BagLuke (talk) 21:23, 9 February 2025 (UTC)Reply
The minimum length is . The Hermite constant is the square of that length. The rational number 4/3 (for dimension two) in the table in the example section is the square of the Hermite constant. I think your image is ok but its caption is wrong. The caption writes that the Hermite constant is the length. It is not. It is the square of the length. —David Eppstein (talk) 21:38, 9 February 2025 (UTC)Reply
David Eppstein, Gotcha, made the correction. Still confused as to why is 2/sqrt(3), when a fundamental region of a hexagonal lattice, a 120 degree rhombus, only has area 1 when the side length (least length of a nonzero element in that lattice) is sqrt(2/sqrt(3)), not 2/sqrt(3). Such a rhombus with side length 2/sqrt(3) has area about 1.1547. I'm definitely missing something about the premise. Thanks, BagLuke (talk) 22:17, 9 February 2025 (UTC)Reply
No no no. Your caption is still wrong. lambda_2, the side length of the fundamental region, is sqrt(2/sqrt3). But that is not the Hermite constant. The Hermite constant, gamma_2, is the square of that, 2/sqrt3. —David Eppstein (talk) 23:41, 9 February 2025 (UTC)Reply
Ohhh, so the length of the side square is the Hermite constant, and that squared is the value in the table. Thanks! BagLuke (talk) 01:15, 10 February 2025 (UTC)Reply
I might speculate that one squaring is to make it dimensionless as a ratio with the arbitrary choice of unit area for the domain, and the second squaring is to make it rational? But really I have no idea. I agree it's confusing. —David Eppstein (talk) 08:53, 10 February 2025 (UTC)Reply

Citation to a questionable conjecture

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The article cite the paper: - A conjecture on Hermite constants, L Mächler, D Naccache - Cryptology ePrint Archive, 2022; that article appears to remain unpublished after 3 years, its barely cited, its argumentation is more than limited, and the authors do not have a noticeable track record on the topic. I am questioning whether this citation is fit for a wikipedia mathematical article. ~2026-43000-1 (talk) 13:26, 20 January 2026 (UTC)Reply

Agreed. This does not seem to be a reliable source. I removed the reference to this conjecture. Eigenbra (talk) 09:45, 21 January 2026 (UTC)Reply

Table is just wrong

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The table seems to be just wrong. It looks like the values in the table are \gamma_n^n rather than \gamma_n? It's a bit difficult to know because there's no source cited. NoahSD (talk) 07:26, 5 March 2026 (UTC)Reply

@NoahSD The heading for the values does already say \gamma_n^n, so are you just asking for the text to also reflect this? Eigenbra (talk) 17:44, 5 March 2026 (UTC)Reply
Ahh.. I didn't notice the heading. Sorry about that.
I guess since I didn't notice it, maybe others won't notice it too and it's worth mentioning it clearly in the text? NoahSD (talk) 17:45, 5 March 2026 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for clarifying. I changed the table instead. Please check it for correctness. Eigenbra (talk) 17:18, 6 March 2026 (UTC)Reply