Talk:Heracles

why isnt the pederasty brought up?

Iolaus was his nephew and 12, correct? im not hallucinating that? i think an important tid-bit like that should atleast be mentioned somewhere in the article 47.249.2.238 (talk) 01:29, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

Where you have info he was 12? Also, Iolaus was Heracles's companion for many years, he surely outgrow age of 12 during this time. Sobek2000 (talk) 09:50, 8 March 2025 (UTC)

The relationship is there in the first paragraph in the 'Men' subsection of 'lovers' section. The first mention of Iolaus further up the page states: 'His twin mortal brother, son of Amphitryon, was Iphicles, father of Heracles's charioteer Iolaus.' So the only detail that's missing in the supposed age, for which I have yet to find a source. Endlesspumpkin (talk) 15:04, 8 March 2025 (UTC)

I was not asking you for their kinship. I am well aware Iolaus was his nephew. I asked you for source that says Heracles slept with him when Iolaus was 12. Sobek2000 (talk) 15:44, 8 March 2025 (UTC)

@Sobek2000: Endlesspumpkin was responding to the first poster, not to you. Paul August ☎ 17:06, 8 March 2025 (UTC)

Ok, my bad! Sobek2000 (talk) 17:21, 8 March 2025 (UTC)

Citation needed...

"He was renamed Heracles in an unsuccessful attempt to mollify Hera, with Heracles meaning Hera's "pride" or "glory"."

Is there a source for this claim?

2001:8003:F231:BC00:6C09:CF4F:882C:23E0 (talk) 12:08, 3 March 2025 (UTC)

Removed, as I'm unable to find a source for this. A fragment of Pindar (fr. 291 SM) states instead that he received the name because he achieved fame and acclaim as a result of her challenge, while Apollodorus (2.4.12) writes that the name is given to him by the oracle of Delphi. Another explanation is apparently that he received the name for preventing Porphyrion from raping Hera. Nothing about it being an attempt to please Hera, though. – Michael Aurel (talk) 01:03, 5 March 2025 (UTC)

Tone in the Labors of Hercules section

To me the tone here seems off, it shifts as if I'm no longer reading Wikipedia... I get that it's a story, but to me this seemed off or a bit show-y. I'm open to being wrong on this. Let me know what yall's thoughts are.

For instance the starting sentence under point three: "Not to kill, but to catch, this hind that was sacred to Artemis." SpentGladiator (talk) 18:05, 13 March 2026 (UTC)

Yes, it's a bit off. I've fixed the wording in that spot, but the whole section really ought to be rewritten. – Michael Aurel (talk) 13:10, 15 March 2026 (UTC)

Cerberus Capture

Won’t pretend to be an expert, but this part seems a little strange. Looked into the alleged source here (Theoi) and here (Internet Archive) and I’m not sure what the wiki text means by, “He used the souls to help convince Hades to hand over the dog.” Maybe a little more specificity, but it seemed to me the souls were just a description of his underworld adventures, without much relevance to Hades’ demands. And I’m not certain if this part should be cited. Illusions Of Spades (talk) 07:25, 25 May 2026 (UTC)