Talk:Haman

Haman as a metaphor for Jesus

According to modern author Elliot Horowitz, medieval Jews would often dress up Haman as a look-alike to Jesus, which provoked controversy with the Christian Church. This seems like an interesting footnote for the article, given the documented tendency in Jewish tradition to use symbolism in describing non-Jews or enemies of Judaism, for instance in cases where Amalekites are compared to Palestinians. The analogies also tend to apply with the figures of Esau and Rome. ADM (talk) 10:22, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Just one point - Jesus was not a non-Jew! 86.148.102.178 (talk) 10:39, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Genocide methodology

Was Haman supposedly going to hang just Mordecai on a gallows, and not everyone else? I suppose his idea of "killing everybody" had been to use swords and knives, like the Crusaders later did and also the Hutus and Tutsis. — Rickyrab | Talk 12:33, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Requested move 16 March 2017

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The result of the move request was: page moved. Andrewa (talk) 13:39, 26 March 2017 (UTC)

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Haman (biblical figure) → Haman – Important biblical figure, the others seem rather obscure by comparison. The existing Haman article ought to be merged with Haman (disambiguation). PatGallacher (talk) 13:19, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

• Comment "The others seem rather obscure by comparison" is not a very strong argument. How about some google and page view stats? Perhaps a summary of the historical significance of the others? Instead of making every participant do this basic homework, why not do it for everyone once, summarize, and provide pertinent links? --В²C ☎ 18:08, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
  • Because sometimes a judgement about primary topic can be based on long-term cultural or historical significance, sometimes established just by reading the articles. Page view and google stats do not necessarily have the importance some people attach to them. PatGallacher (talk) 13:10, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
• Agree Definitely predominant use is the biblical figure. Born2cycle, why don't you do the searches, instead of putting down a good-willing editor with a good proposal? Debresser (talk) 12:15, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
• Support I agree that the predominant article is the one about the biblical figure. Lepricavark (talk) 22:17, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
• Support per the above. StAnselm (talk) 23:05, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
• Support per nom; clear primary topic. bd2412 T 03:32, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

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Haman merge with Haman (Islam)

The Haman (Islam) page is short. Should it just be integrated into the Haman page? Doremon764 (talk) 04:04, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

No, because they are totally different figures from different countries and times. Johnbod (talk) 10:28, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

The message the following text is trying to convey is not clear: "However, a Jewish man named Mordecai refused to bow down to him, which enraged Haman. Seeking revenge, Haman convinced the king to issue a decree that all Jews in the Persian empire be exterminated. Haman's plot was foiled by Queen Esther, who was also Jewish and had concealed her identity from the King. Esther revealed Haman's plan to Ahasuerus and pleaded with him to spare her people. The King was outraged at Haman's treachery and ordered that he be executed instead." Namely, why the word "foil" was used and what was the "treachery" committed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mohseng (talk • contribs) 21:25, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

South park episode

Why no mention of the South park episode, Jewbilee (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewbilee), in this article? Jfb03604918 (talk) 12:18, 5 December 2024 (UTC)

it even links to this article with it's mention of Haman Jfb03604918 (talk) 12:18, 5 December 2024 (UTC)

Jews in Iran choice

As of February 2025 The Jews remaining in Iran have chosen to live under the rule of Haman's spirtual descendants and not go up (Aliyah) to Israel; because of their decision they cannot be rescued by the Jews of Israel; the Jews in Iran must live with their choice.Likewise Jews so Anti-Zionist (i.e.Neturei Karta) that they will actually publicly march with anti Israel group [such as the PLO, Hamas, Hazbullah, Iran et al]Groups which have vowed to destroy Israel. By their actions they have de facto excommicated themselves from World Jewish People. 174.98.170.14 (talk) 14:11, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

The concept that "all Jews are responsible for each other's conduct" is a recognized principle in Jewish texts, often expressed by the phrase "Kol Yisrael Areivim zeh bazeh" (all Israel are sureties/guarantors for one another). This idea generally refers to mutual moral and communal responsibility, not a collective legal or political accountability for every individual's actions.

Within contemporary Judaism, there are diverse views on the State of Israel and Zionism.

Anti-Zionist Jewish Groups: There exist Jewish individuals and organizations, such as Jewish Voice for Peace (JVP), who are anti-Zionist. Their opposition to Israeli policies or the concept of a Jewish state often stems from their interpretation of Jewish values and a commitment to Palestinian freedom and human rights.

Support for Palestinian Groups: Some of these groups express solidarity with the Palestinian struggle and movements like the PLO. Reports indicate that some activists have shown support for Hamas or Iran, especially after the October 7, 2023 attack, framing it as supporting "Palestinian resistance in all its forms".

Haman is the archetypal enemy of the Jews from the biblical Book of Esther, known for plotting their extermination in ancient Persia. In Jewish tradition, Haman is considered the epitome of evil, a descendant of Amalek, against whom Jews are commanded to "erase the memory". Rabbinic literature portrays him as a villain whose downfall is celebrated annually during the holiday of Purim.

Rabbinic literature consistently condemns Haman and views any action in solidarity with such an enemy or against Jewish people as contrary to Jewish law and ethics. The idea of "showing solidarity with Haman against Jewish Persons" is fundamentally against Jewish religious and ethical teachings, as Haman represents an existential threat to the Jewish people in traditional texts. 2603:6010:BB00:288B:F82D:EE7:A69C:DB8F (talk) 10:27, 1 November 2025 (UTC)

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