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Latest comment: 1 year ago by GR123456789 in topic Some details

References

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Some of the references are really against the party, not giving a clear picture of the party, but rather an opinion-based opposition. LightningLighting (talk) 13:38, 28 May 2019 (UTC)Reply

“Ultranationalism”

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I won’t pretend to know a ton about Greek solution, they’re a new party that only recently entered parliament. I oppose deeming them “ultranationalist” because our current sourcing for doing so consists of a quote from a guardian article (on top of this, the guardian is a source known to many to be anti right and pro left in its reporting, making use of it in cases like this a poor idea). If better and more sources can be found that say the same thing, the piece can stay, if not, we should remove it or hold an RfC. (Another thing to keep in mind would be that Greek solution only entered parliament a few months ago, and I don’t think we should be too quick to try and throw labels like this on such a new party). Victor Salvini (talk) 00:45, 12 October 2019 (UTC)Reply

Infobox

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I think we should simplify the ideologies and move the rest to the Ideology and policies section Braganza (talk) 13:07, 7 April 2023 (UTC)Reply

I agree. I think it should be the following:
  • Ultranationalism
  • Pro-Russian sentiment
  • Right-wing populism

ValenciaThunderbolt (talk) 11:19, 27 May 2023 (UTC)Reply

National conservatism alone is my preference; national conservatism and right-wing populism would also be acceptable.— Autospark (talk) 12:58, 27 May 2023 (UTC)Reply
Yeah, I'll go with the latter that instead :) ValenciaThunderbolt (talk) 13:00, 27 May 2023 (UTC)Reply
I totaly agree with User:Autospark. The party is also Christian-conservative, but religious right would be too American. --Checco (talk) 08:34, 29 May 2023 (UTC)Reply
I agree with ValenciaThunderbolt's original post in so far as I think ultranationalism should also be included in the infobox. Helper201 (talk) 23:35, 29 May 2023 (UTC)Reply
I’d rather ultranationalism be kept in the article body (or more accurately article body and lede, as per current edits), to both to keep the Infobox free of bloat and because it’s arguable whether ultranationalism is a distinct political ideology rather than a socio-cultural viewpoint.— Autospark (talk) 10:54, 30 May 2023 (UTC)Reply
3 ideologies is far from bloat. Ultranationalism is an extreme form of nationalism, which is specifically stated on its page to an be an ideology (see the top of the page where it states "This article is about the ideology. For other uses, see Nationalist (disambiguation)" and the Terminology section, which states, "According to Lisa Weeden, nationalist ideology presumes that "the people" and the state are congruent".
Ultranationalism is also listed on the page, List of political ideologies. Helper201 (talk) 19:45, 30 May 2023 (UTC)Reply

Label

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I believe that the political position of the party should be switched to far-right only. Any ideas or suggestions on this? Majority of sources claim that the party is far-right and not just right-wing in any way. Michalis1994 (talk) 12:56, 12 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Keep as right-wing to far-right, there are plenty of sources that are in the article both and more than can be given beyond this for both positions. Helper201 (talk) 00:37, 13 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Some details

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I think we need to add 2 things about the geopolitical views of the party not mentioned by mainstream media. First of all, the party likes Orban's type of ruling but they also consider him an enemy of Greece as he is pro-Turkish. So they like the way he governs but they view him as an enemy to Greece. And secondly, the party largely promoted and supported the Greek-French alliance and the East Med agreement. I think these need to be added. Lastly, we should add that its MEP in the European parliament had made the most questions if I can recall correctly GR123456789 (talk) 20:19, 15 August 2024 (UTC)Reply