Talk:Governance of England

AFD closure

@MRSC: have I close the RFD discussion correctly?ChefBear01 (talk) 14:16, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

Just the close footer needed, which I've added. MRSC (talk) 15:03, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

@MRSC:, I wanted to continue the rename discussion now that the move discussion has ended.ChefBear01 (talk) 20:00, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

Start a completely new request. Note MOS:TITLECASE, which your last one did not comply with. MRSC (talk) 04:14, 26 June 2026 (UTC)

@MRSC:, thank you ChefBear01 (talk) 14:00, 26 June 2026 (UTC)

Request Move (Rename)

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. Per consensus. Nominator fails to demonstrate that "National governance in England" is the WP:COMMONNAME. (closed by non-admin page mover) Fortek67 (talk) 17:47, 30 June 2026 (UTC)

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Governance of England → National governance in England – this better reflects the purpose of the article and follows a similar name to Local Government in England. ChefBear01 (talk) 20:25, 23 June 2026 (UTC)

It utilises the level of governance in the title.ChefBear01 (talk) 14:11, 26 June 2026 (UTC)

Oppose - keep as is. The title describes the subject. --10mmsocket (talk) 17:13, 26 June 2026 (UTC)

Agree, with a multiple tiered system it needs to be clear what level of governance it is to ensure readers are not confused as to which article to look at for certain information. This article name will ensure this as a sui generis system in the U.K (see below).

(National)

National governance in England

(Regional/Sub National)

Devolution in England

(Local)

Local Government in England

ChefBear01 (talk) 19:01, 26 June 2026 (UTC)

You can't agree, you're the proposer. Set out this as part of the introduction above then remove. 10mmsocket (talk) 20:00, 26 June 2026 (UTC)

Oppose - I think the existing title is clear and less ambiguous. It's an article about how England is governed.

"National" is an ambiguous word in this context (does it refer to the nation of England or the nation of the UK?).

In most parts of the world, this confusion wouldn't occur because "national" and "country" are words exclusively used to refer to the sovereign state. "National" is an ambiguous term when referring to the UK, Great Britain, England, Scotland, and Wales. All are all commonly known as nations and countries. The current title is fine. "Governance of England" doesn't mean governance of sub-divisions of England. The article opening paragraph can make this explicit to avoid any confusion (e.g. this article covers the governance of England as a single entity – see also/not to be confused with Devolution in England). Simon373737 (talk) 19:55, 26 June 2026 (UTC)

I've added an article description and 'see also' note to the top of the article to reduce risk of misunderstanding of the article's focus. Simon373737 (talk) 20:18, 26 June 2026 (UTC)

@Simon373737: How about England-wide Governance in line with template at the top of the English Devolution article?. This clarifies its extent over England as a whole while avoiding any confusion.

I would also like to thank you for the additions you made.ChefBear01 (talk) 13:43, 27 June 2026 (UTC)

Thanks! I still prefer the existing title, but I'd settle for that title if a consensus emerges supporting that change. Simon373737 (talk) 13:55, 27 June 2026 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.