Talk:Giant

Suggested addition to the list of giants

The section, Names and origins of giants, should include Big_Joe_Mufferaw (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Joe_Mufferaw). Although I would note that the legend is (5.8-metre) taller than the historical person (6' 4").

Giants and their Origin

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As to the origin and the Belief in Giants, Megalithic structures and ancient burial mounds have probably played their part in inspiring the myths and legends. Ancient Fossil animals such as Cave Bear and Mastodon bones may have been misinterperated by Native Americans and ancient Greeks as those of great heroes and Vilains. But the most likely scenario is that there were actual tribes and racial stocks of ancient man who stood between 2-3 metres of height. This can be testified even today with racial groups who live in East Africa and South America who commonly attain statures of 6-7 ft. Skeletons of this range and taller have been found all over the world-Many in the United States. Just take a look at the many different news headlines from The New York Times and Washington Post which gained national attention during the 19th and 20th centuries:

WASHINGTON POST HEADLINES:

· AN INDIAN GIANT’S TOMB [Nov 18, 1883]

· A RACE OF GIANTS [Mar 16, 1884]

· THE BONES OF A GIANT [Dec 9, 1887]

· INDIANS SEVEN FEET TALL [Feb 10. 1890]

· WARRIOR SKELETONS UNEARTHED [Dec 21, 1896]

· Dug Up a Skeleton Eight Feet Long [Dec 4, 1898]

· GIANTS IN THOSE DAYS; Monster Skeleton Discovered in the Miami Valley [Dec 25, 1898]

· GIANTS' SKELETONS IN A CAVE [Jun 17, 1899]

· SKELETONS OF DWARFS; Curious Specimens Brought from the Philippines [Dec 31, 1899]

· EARLY AMERICAN GIANTS. ; Reasons for Believing that a Race of 20-footers Lived in Arizona. [Mar 11, 1900]

· WILD SERI CANNIBALS [Jul 18, 1900]

· ISLAND OF MYSTERY [Oct 13, 1901]

· BONES OF GIANT ANCIENTS [Jul 3, 1903]

· Giants’ Graves [Sep 20, 1903]

· Find Horns on Human Skull [Dec 24, 1905]

· OLD TIME GIANTS [Oct 25, 1906]

· GIANT IN ANCIENT MOUND [Jun 23, 1908]

· SOME HISTORIC GIANTS [Aug 17, 1908]

· FIND PREHISTORIC GIANT [Feb 3. 1909]

· SKULL GIVEN MUSEUM [Jan 16, 1910]

· BONES OF STRANGE MEN [May 4, 1912]

· Why Scientists Believe Mythical Monsters Existed [Nov 7, 1915]

· FIND TWO SKELETONS OF PRIMITIVE MEN [Oct 25, 1923]

· Giant Human Skeletons, 12 feet Long, are Found [Jun 22, 1925]

· TRACES OF EARLIEST HUMAN RACE FOUND [Aug 20, 1925]

· PREHISTORIC BONES REVEAL TRAGEDY OF GIANTS' LOST RACE [Nov 20, 1927]

· Town Very Proud Of Skeleton Found [Dec 16, 1928]

· Evidence of Giants Bared by Mounds [Jun 15, 1930]

· 3 Huge Skeletons Of Humans Found [Apr 24, 1932]

· WEIRD GIANTS of a DEAD PAST [May 29, 1932]

· Oklahoma Indian Relics Unearthed; Thigh Bone of 9-Foot Man Found in Mound [Aug 26, 1934]

· Largest Skull Ever Recorded is Discovered By Archeologist in Stafford County, Virginia [Jun 24, 1937]

· Major Finds Grave of Giant Aleutian [Sep 16, 1944]

· Giant's Skeleton Found by Soviets [Oct 30, 1945]

· Mammoth Jaws Hint Existence of Prehistoric Giants [Jul 15, 1946]

· Jaw and Skull of Oldest Man Safe in N.Y. [Sep 21, 1946]

· Prehistoric Find Points to Giant Ape Man [Dec 1, 1948]

· Strange Bones Dug Up [Apr 7, 1949]

· Giant Skeleton [Feb 9, 1972]

THE NEW YORK TIMES HEADLINES:

· SKELETON OF GIANT FOUND [Nov 21, 1856]

· Reported Discovery of a Huge Skeleton [Dec 25, 1868]

· THE EARLY AMERICAN GIANT [Feb 8, 1876]

· THE BEST ITEMS BY MAIL; UTAH MOUNDS REPORTED DISCOVERIES MADE BY RECENT EXCAVATIONS TWO SKELETONS FOUND AND ANCIENT RELICS NEAR THEM [Apr 15 1877]

· BONES OF ALLEGED BROOKLYN GIANTS [Feb 6, 1880]

· TWO VERY TALL SKELETONS [Aug 10, 1880]

· THE BONES OF A GIANT FOUND [May 25, 1882]

· THE GRAVEYARD OF THE GIANTS [Jul 10, 1883]

· THE CARSON FOOTPRINTS [Aug 15, 1883]

· SKELETONS SEVEN FEET LONG [Mar 5, 1885]

· MONSTER SKULLS AND BONES [Apr 5, 1888]

· SKELETONS OF A FORMER RACE [Jun 30, 1888]

· SKELETON OF A BIG INDIAN [Aug 17, 1889]

· A RACE OF INDIAN GIANTS [Feb 9, 1890]

· MOUND BUILDERS' SKELETONS FOUND [Apr 19, 1891]

· MR. JEFFERSON'S CYCLOPS. ; A GIANT SKELETON UNEARTHED AT BUZZARD'S BAY [Jul 5, 1891]

· THE WISCONSIN MOUNDS [Aug 10, 1891]

· IN THE WISCONSIN MOUNDS [Sep 27, 1891]

· A Race of Giants in Old Gaul [Oct 3, 1892]

· GIANTS OF OTHER DAYS [Mar 3, 1894]

· RELICS OF THE ABORIGINES [Aug 12, 1894]

· A TALL SKELETON FOUND NEAR PHOENIX [Mar 22, 1896]

· WISCONSIN MOUND OPENED [Dec 20, 1897]

· GIANT SKELETONS FOUND [Feb 11, 1902]

· UNEARTHING REVOLUTIONARY BONES AT 181st STREET [Jun 22, 1902]

· FIND GIANT INDIANS' BONES [Sep 7, 1904]

· GIANT RACE IN GREENLAND [Dec 19, 1904]

· A NEW RACE OF GIANTS [Dec 25, 1904]

· GIANTS' SKELETONS FOUND [May 4, 1908]

· STRANGE SKELETONS FOUND [May 4, 1912]

· FOUND GIANTS IN CHINA [Jan 27, 1914]

· GIANTS' BONES IN MOUND [Jul 14, 1916]

· Not Human Skulls with Horns [Jul 16, 1916]

· Unearths Skeleton of Indian Giant [Jun 14, 1923]

· OLDEST SKULLS YET FOUND [Oct 28, 1923]

· FIND SKELETON OF GIANT [Mar 17, 1924]

· MUMMIES FOUND IN CAVES [Feb 7, 1925]

· FIND FLORIDA GIANTS' BONES [Feb 15, 1925]

· PUT MAN’S AGE BACK TEN MILLION YEARS [Apr 20, 1925]

· GIANTS' BONES IN MEXICO [Jun 21, 1925]

· GIANTS SURVIVE THE AGE OF FABLE [Jul 12, 1925]

· HEADLESS GIANT BODIES FOUND IN PARIS GRAVES [Aug 7, 1925]

· OLD ROYAL TOMB UNEARTHED IN OHIO [Sep 12, 1925]

· UNEARTH THE BONES OF TEN-FOOT GIANTS [May 14, 1926]

· FIND BONES IN MOUNDS [Feb 21, 1927]

· THE GOBI GIVES US A MONSTER [Sep 2, 1928]

· TAKING THOUGHT ABOUT STATURE [Apr 20, 1929]

· ‘Oldest Human Footprint’ Points to Primitive Giants in Africa [Oct 2, 1929]

· Skeleton of Giant Early Man Reported Unearthed in Mexico [Jun 9, 1930]

· REPORTS FIND OF BONES OF MEN 8 FEET TALL [Dec 2, 1930]

· FIND ANCIENT BONES NEAR PITTSBURGH [Sep 14, 1932]

· EIGHT MT. CARMEL SKELETONS REACH LONDON [Jan 11, 1933]

· INDIAN BURIAL MOUND YIELDS MANY RELICS [Aug 26, 1934]

· Bones of Huge Man Reported [Feb 14, 1936]

· CHILEAN FOSSIL MAN SEEN [Nov 16, 1941]

· HINTS ‘GIANT’ ANCESTORS [Jul 15, 1946]

· GIANT BONES IN RUSSIA [Jan 29, 1947]

· ‘Largest’ Ape Man Found in Africa; Indicated to Top 9-Foot Java Man [Dec 1, 1948]

· IN SEARCH OF EARLY AMERICANS [Mar 26, 1995]

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.99.204.54 (talk) 23:34, 12 March 2005‎ (UTC)

Familial gigantism

Seeing as most of the information on this is testimonial, perhaps some realistic speculation would be appropriate, given that pretense exists for it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:602:100:DC9C:9C1B:C77D:DEA8:309A (talk) 23:08, 30 May 2016 (UTC)

References

Anywhere else, eg Wikiversity, this would be a good idea. But here sources need to discuss the subject, see WP:NOR and WP:VERIFY. Thanks though. Interesting link. Doug Weller talk 15:46, 2 June 2016 (UTC)

It's kinda cool how all those genetic disorders are known to be hereditary, even gigantism. Also hereditary genetic diseases never just appear but come about due to a combination of DNA and environment. Last with diseases like gigantism we see multiple genetic families carrying it, now if we could track down a location those families shared we may be closer to the nature aspect of the mutation. Or it could just be our species breeding into another species, possibly giants, then the disease would be hiding till envirmental factors bring it out again. Still one of the great mysteries of science. https://www.genome.gov/19016930/faq-about-genetic-disorders/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:5C5:4302:402A:3CCC:41E0:B7A4:BCDA (talk) 06:42, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

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"Mythology"

This entire page refers to all giants as being "mythological creatures", which is dishonest. There is far too much archaeological evidence as well as recorded eyewitness accounts to call it a "myth" on an objective source like Wikipedia — Preceding unsigned comment added by Samechillguy (talk • contribs) 2018-08-05 19:03:18 (UTC)

@Samechillguy: then you won't have any problems finding academic sources for the archaeological evidence. Can we please see some? (agh, where are my tildes?)— Preceding unsigned comment added by Doug Weller (talk • contribs) 2018-08-05 20:03 (UTC)

If you mean gigantism, we have an article on that (to which this one also links). —PaleoNeonate – 19:40, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

My assumption is that he's referring to "real giants" as supposedly discovered in the headlines listed above under "Giants and their origin" in this talk page. Probably not anything that we need to acknowledge beyond the current "alleged fossil evidence" already in the article.--Ermenrich (talk) 21:04, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

Abrahamic Inaccuracy

In the Abrahamic subsection of Religion and Mythology, the sentence "However, the Book of Joshua, describing the actual conquest of Canaan in a later generation, makes no reference to such people living there," is incorrect. The Anakim, identified in the article as "Anakites" are mentioned several times in the Book of Joshua. Joshua 14:12 mentions the Anakim having lived in the Hill country, and Joshua 15:14 mentions that Caleb drove out several descendants of Anak. The Wikipedia article on the Anakim also gives reference to their mention in Joshua 11:22. 173.202.22.94 (talk) 20:05, 15 April 2022 (UTC)