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Comment about the large quote
[edit]While the article's looking good, that large quote box is kinda messy and may verge on a copyvio. It's probably better to just summarize what's said best, as quote boxes are generally disliked in video game character articles. Kung Fu Man (talk) 17:20, 27 March 2026 (UTC)
- I will update the article as soon as possible. Thank you for the suggestion. Oreun 💬Talk 09:19, 29 March 2026 (UTC)
Capitalization or lackthereof
[edit]I notice a lack of capitalization of this species' name. My first thought was to compare with other robot species, and my instinct was correct; see Cylons for instance. Is there a reason "geth" is not capitalized? - UtherSRG (talk) 22:37, 28 March 2026 (UTC)
- Within the Mass Effect universe, the names of species are not capitalized. Checking other articles about other alien species from that universe, they are usually written in lowercase in accordance to the game's lore. Whithin the universe terms like turian or quarian function as common nouns rather than proper nouns, trying to mirror the usage of the word "human" in real life.
- I've simply followed the convention that has been established in other Mass Effect species' articles. Oreun 💬Talk 09:16, 29 March 2026 (UTC)
Did you know nomination
[edit]- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. Track your hook after promotion. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: rejected, closed by Launchballer (talk) 12:56, 28 May 2026 (UTC)
- ... that the architectural design of the geth-controlled quarian home world in Mass Effect 3 was inspired by London's Lloyd's building?
- Source: The Art of the Mass Effect Trilogy: Expanded edition. ISBN: 9781506721637 p.184
- ALT1: ... that some geth spacecraft in the Mass Effect universe feature protruding arms designed to mimic a fly rubbing its legs together? Source: The Art of the Mass Effect Trilogy: Expanded edition. ISBN: 9781506721637 p.56
- ALT2: ... that the fictional robotic species geth from Mass Effect function as a network of programs that become more intelligent as more units are linked together? Source: de Groot, Dries (July 28, 2016). "The Robot, the Alien and the Woman: The Representation of "Otherness" in the Mass Effect Trilogy" https://theses.ubn.ru.nl/server/api/core/bitstreams/6ae03683-ec76-48dc-8815-0a3de87010f9/content
- ALT3: ... that the name of the fictional robotic species geth from Mass Effect literally means "servant of the people" in the language of their creators? Source: de Groot, Dries (July 28, 2016). "The Robot, the Alien and the Woman: The Representation of "Otherness" in the Mass Effect Trilogy" https://theses.ubn.ru.nl/server/api/core/bitstreams/6ae03683-ec76-48dc-8815-0a3de87010f9/content — Preceding unsigned comment added by Oreun (talk • contribs) 14:34, 1 April 2026 (UTC)
- Reviewed:
- Comment: If the first hook is chosen, it may also be a good idea to nominate the quarian article as well, as the fact is discussed there too.
Oreun 💬Talk 14:04, 31 March 2026 (UTC).
- Another alt: ALT4...that the geth nearly went unused after the first Mass Effect, only being kept due to their positive reception? Source: Hillier, Brenna (April 10, 2013). "Mass Effect's continued Geth storyline the "trade off" for missing Rachni plot" https://www.vg247.com/mass-effects-continued-geth-storyline-the-trade-off-for-missing-rachni-plotOreun 💬Talk 17:04, 20 April 2026 (UTC)
- Not a review, but new hooks may be needed here. ALT4 may not be interesting or understandable to non-fans of Mass Effect. ALTs 1-3 might violate WP:DYKFICTION. That leaves ALT0 as the best option, but it may need a rephrase to be more accessible to non-fans of the franchise. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:19, 29 April 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks for the feedback! This was my first time nominating, sorry for my mistakes. How does this read: "ALT0a: ... that Mass Effect 3's art team drew inspiration from London's Lloyd's building when designing the architecture of the planet of the robotic geth?" I've also written a hook based on the reception and analysis section that I consider interesting: "ALT5: ... that an uprising by the robotic geth against their creators in the Mass Effect universe has been compared to concerns about mechanized labor expressed in The Communist Manifesto?" Source:De Groot, Dries The Robot, the Alien and the Woman: The Representation of “Otherness” in the Mass Effect Trilogy https://theses.ubn.ru.nl/server/api/core/bitstreams/6ae03683-ec76-48dc-8815-0a3de87010f9/content Oreun 💬Talk 15:06, 30 April 2026 (UTC)
@Oreun: Long enough, new enough. No QPQ necessary and Earwig's clean. Not technically a DYK issue (but one a half-decent GA reviewer will pick up, so please do this anyway); 'geth' and others are proper nouns, so want capitalising. I'm afraid I don't find ALT0a or ALT5 interesting either; 'thing is inspired by something' isn't unusual, and ALT5 requires knowledge of The Communist Manifesto to be interesting. What else do you have?--Launchballer 01:33, 13 May 2026 (UTC)
- The capitalization concerns have already been brought up in the article's talk page, and I've already adressed them. I've simply used the convention that has been established in other Mass Effect articles, including GAs like Tali'Zorah or Legion (Mass Effect), which mentions their species (quarians and geth) with no capitalization. If the GA reviewer that picks up the article decides to bring it up and tells me to change it after explaining my rationale I will, but for now I think it's better to maintain consistancy between the articles. Either way, how do these sound?:
- "ALT6: ... that a critic used the fictional robotic Geth from Mass Effect to argue that AI robots like those from Hanson Robotics could be considered a new form of life once deemed sufficiently intelligent? Wood, Eric (September 7, 2018). https://web.archive.org/web/20200322184310/https://www.itbusiness.ca/news/cinematech-mass-effect-argued-ai-was-a-new-life-form-better-than-an-actual-ai-developer/104689
"ALT7: ... that scholars have compared a fictional conflict in Mass Effect involving the robotic Geth to the Israeli–Palestinian conflict?" Bin Abdul Hamid, Mohd Hafriz; Binti Mohamad Ghazali, Izlin (October 22, 2025) https://dx.doi.org/10.47772/IJRISS.2025.909000611- I've also rewritten ALT4, so that maybe now it would be understandable for non-Mass Effect fans: "ALT4a: ... that the robotic Geth from Mass Effect were received so positively that developer BioWare decided to keep them for future entries in the series, despite originally planning to sideline them?" Oreun 💬Talk 10:52, 13 May 2026 (UTC)
- Just wondering: would that not count as local consensus? What works for one series may not be a fiction-wide thing. The term Wookiees is not capitalized the same way, for example. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:10, 15 May 2026 (UTC)
- Sorry for the late response, I've been busy. You may be right to call it a local consensus, as I've only been able to find one inconclusive discussion at talk:Illusive Man. For now, I'll capitalize the ones in the new ALTs I sent, and I'll figure out what to do with the rest, since there are many Mass Effect-related articles and changing them all would take some time. Oreun 💬Talk 16:00, 25 May 2026 (UTC)
- Comment WP:UPSD is marking the source for ALT7 as a predatory journal. 🪐Kepler-1229b | talk | contribs🪐 03:35, 25 May 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks for letting me know. I've added a strikethrough over it here and will now remove it from the article. Oreun 💬Talk 16:00, 25 May 2026 (UTC)
- Just wondering: would that not count as local consensus? What works for one series may not be a fiction-wide thing. The term Wookiees is not capitalized the same way, for example. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:10, 15 May 2026 (UTC)
@Oreun: Apologies for dropping this. ALT7 might have worked but for its sourcing, and ALT6 is dull.--Launchballer 11:33, 28 May 2026 (UTC)
- It's no problem. I believe that's all I have. Feel free to fail this. Oreun 💬Talk 12:43, 28 May 2026 (UTC)
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