Talk:Geely Boyue

The first-generation Boyue should remain in this article

The Boyue article should not be limited to the current Boyue (formerly Boyue Cool), but should also cover the original Boyue models from 2016 onwards, so that the full history of that nameplate remains intact. This approach does not remove or dispute the lineage between the original Boyue and the Boyue L, it is clearly documented through the section headers, lead section and timeline template.

At the same time, the article titled Boyue L should only contain information relevant to the vehicle actually named Boyue L. The "Boyue L" name only appeared in 2022 and cannot be retroactively applied to the previous models as it creates confusion and undermines the clarity expected from an encyclopedia. Readers searching for Boyue L are specifically looking for information on that model, not its predecessor.

The article is restored to the status quo version until this dispute is properly resolved, and it is expected that no further unilateral changes will be made that undermine the ongoing discussion. Andra Febrian (talk) 09:25, 16 September 2025 (UTC)

Geely has officially announced that the NL3, NL3B, FX11, and the fourth-generation model have been formally integrated into the Boyue L series, completing the full Boyue L product lineup. It is a fact that the original Boyue is now based on an entirely different BMA platform, serving as the successor to the Binyue and has been renamed by Geely as a new product series. Separating the FX11 and the fourth-generation model from the previous two generations (NL3 and NL3B), and even outright dismissing the fourth generation as merely a facelift, is entirely based on your subjective opinion and disregards the manufacturer's stance. My position is that no editor's subjective views should override the manufacturer's stance.

Furthermore, dividing the first and second generations from the third and fourth generations will create more confusion for future readers trying to understand the Boyue L model line (such as potential fifth or later generations). A competent editor should be able to foresee this issue. Infinty 0 (talk) 11:59, 16 September 2025 (UTC)

Your statement that “no editor's subjective views should override the manufacturer's stance” misrepresents my position. I have never disputed the lineage between the original Boyue and the Boyue L. What I object to is including the older Boyue models in the Boyue L article when they were never named Boyue L by Geely. The lineage is already preserved through the lead section, headers, and timeline, but the article title must reflect the manufacturer’s original assigned name. If Geely launched a model as the Boyue Pro, should we place it in the Boyue L article simply because of lineage? That would disregard the official naming and mislead readers.

Your reference that “Geely has officially announced that the NL3, NL3B, FX11, and the fourth-generation model have been formally integrated into the Boyue L series” does not mean that earlier models were retroactively renamed. Their official names at launch remain valid, and Wikipedia should respect that. The Boyue article already exists and is the proper place to cover those generations.

Regarding the "fourth generation as merely a facelift" remark, that is a separate issue. I can provide sources where it is described as a facelift, but I am not opposed to considering it a new generation if reliable sources support it. What matters is that Wikipedia should not treat manufacturer claims as unquestionable marketing without verification.

Lastly, your concern about confusing readers is exactly why the current version is the best compromise. The Boyue article keeps the full history of the nameplate (NL3, NL3B, FX11 (Boyue L), and the renamed current Boyue). This approach is clearer to readers than forcing retroactive renaming or splitting into multiple inconsistent articles. Andra Febrian (talk) 06:13, 19 September 2025 (UTC)

• Agree. Trying to apply a different name retroactively is going to be very confusing. I don't see any justification for removing the first two generations from this article. --Sable232 (talk) 00:33, 20 September 2025 (UTC)