Talk:Gay 45

Wrong infos on page

Hi! I am the Razvan Ion you mentioned on the page. I will be grateful if someone correct the infos. First: This phrase should not exist: "Following the first issue's publication, GAY45 founding editor Răzvan Ion and US-born LGBTQ+ rights activist Scott Long appeared on the German radio station Delta Radio, interviewing gay men imprisoned under Article 200." Radio station Dealta was French to be correct and Scott Long we do not know who he is. Maybe for you is not important but the article is 90% wrong. As a person working fo 30 years defending human rights I deserve a little respect and this page to be a correct mention of my work. Please make corrections. 2001:4BC9:A45:A542:4142:708D:E100:F63D (talk) 16:56, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

My apologies for this! I undid the edits because copied text can cause copyright issues (see Wikipedia:Copying text from other sources). Another editor with more experience will come and help you shortly. QuietCicada chirp 20:13, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

After 8 months no corrections were made. It is absurd. GAY45 like in the first phrase to change the title Gay 45. How complicated can be? 2001:4BB8:142:731E:A5C6:1BEB:BBA9:6FD0 (talk) 12:40, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

Sources

The article contains:

Following the first issue's publication, GAY45 founding editor Răzvan Ion and US-born LGBTQ+ rights activist [[Scott Long]] appeared on the [[Germany|German]] radio station [[Delta radio|Delta Radio]], interviewing gay men imprisoned under Article 200. The piece is noted as having had a powerful social impact in Romania and "put pressure on the Romanian government to decriminalize homosexuality."<ref name=":0">{{Cite web |title=A country everyone wanted to escape – ODD |url=https://oddweb.org/annuals/2017-2/savaged-pink/a-country-everyone-wanted-to-escape/ |access-date=2024-08-31 |language=en-US}}</ref>

But, when I look at https://oddweb.org/annuals/2017-2/savaged-pink/a-country-everyone-wanted-to-escape/ I do not see Scott Long mentioned.

Google told me that https://www.berghahnjournals.com/view/journals/aspasia/17/1/asp170108.xml is possibly the source of the sentence about Scott Long:

People who expressed same-sex desire additionally continued to fear imprisonment, which, among other consequences, entailed violent abuses such as rape or torture. US-born activist for international LGBTQ+ rights, Scott Long, and Romanian activist and editor of Gay45, Răzvan Ion, interviewed gay men who had been imprisoned under Article 200.

The article currently presents this as if they together interviewed these people, although these could be completely separate events.

Over at scena9.ro the Delta Radio story is mentioned, but it appears to be about someone called Adrian Newell Paun.

Polygnotus (talk) 21:07, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

Scott Long also appears at the bottom of https://exhibits.library.utoronto.ca/exhibits/show/queer-romania-in-late-communis/contextnineties/every-day-life-of-queer-romani from the University of Toronto. You may be correct about the events being separate - perhaps changing the wording so it doesn't imply they were together might be good? For the Delta Radio part, according to the Scena 9 link, it seems they've been renamed to Radio France Internationale or "RFI". Limmidy (talk) 21:55, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

Interesting, thank you. here both Scott Long and Răzvan Ion appear to be credited as the writers of the story. And the article consistently uses "we", although there are only photos of Scott Long with prisoners. It does not appear to mention anything about a radio station.

https://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/RFI_Rom%C3%A2nia confirms that Radio Delta became Radio Delta RFI and then RFI Romania. So the IP was correct about that, it is not German but French/Romanian. Polygnotus (talk) 22:10, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

It does appear that way. I definitely can't help you with that image because I don't speak Romanian unfortunately! Although according to https://oddweb.org/annuals/2017-2/savaged-pink/a-country-everyone-wanted-to-escape/, there was a transcript of a broadcasted debate on Delta Radio, but the article then says basically even though the authenticity of the interview couldn't be confirmed, the "Gay45 interview had a powerful social impact" so I'm not too sure about what this all means or how (or if) it connects to be honest. Limmidy (talk) 01:03, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

I also do not speak Romanian, but I uploaded the image to Claude (language model) and it transcribed and translated it for me. It is indeed a bit mysterious. Polygnotus (talk) 21:03, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

There is also this source:

https://www.hrw.org/legacy/reports97/romania/Romsex2.htm#2.%20BACKGROUND

where the names of Răzvan Ion and Scott Long appear together in what seems to be the same colaboration as presented on the page from the University of Toronto image. Aristeus01 (talk) 07:07, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

Thank you. HRW is an excellent source.

https://www.refworld.org/reference/countryrep/hrw/1998/en/40605

https://www.hrw.org/legacy/reports97/romania/Romsex4.htm

https://www.hrw.org/legacy/reports97/romania/Romsex3.htm says The very possibility that Romania's admission to the Council of Europe might hinge on repeal of the law, though, produced a storm. so there must've been some international pressure.

It is a bit confusing that the IP denies knowledge of Scott Long, because if they are who they claim they are then they must know who he is. Polygnotus (talk) 21:03, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

Page and organisation

Will be nice if someone will change the page title in the correct name of the magazine: GAY45. Also, it is not “ a stub about an organization based in Romania”. The organisation is based in Austria and UK. As a founder of the magazine I am astonish how many mistakes in the article Wiki refuse to correct. Also the grammar can be corrected. Nobody get anything from wrong articles. Thank you. 2A02:8388:6B83:F080:115D:BD3B:60D7:3E53 (talk) 21:28, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

Hello. I am Răzvan Ion, founder and current editor-in-chief of GAY45. Because I have a conflict of interest, I will not edit this article myself. I am asking an uninvolved editor to review the changes below. Each is supported by a source. (A separate requested move, from "Gay 45" to "GAY45", is open below.)

1. Lead paragraph

• Current: "GAY45 is an online, English-language queer publication, now based in Vienna, Austria and London, UK. Was republished starting with 2023. It is notable as having been Eastern Europe's first queer publication and one of the oldest continuous queer journals in Europe, founded as a print magazine in April 1993 by activist and editor Răzvan Ion. The magazine has received various accolades for its contributions to the queer community and its innovative use of technology in journalism."
• Proposed: "GAY45 (originally published as Gay 45) is an Austrian, English-language queer publication of journalism and long-form reporting, based in Vienna with an editorial office in London. It takes its name from Gay 45, a magazine founded by Răzvan Ion in Bucharest that published two issues in 1993; the title was relaunched online in 2023."
• Reasons:
  • The publisher, DerAffe Kunst- und Kulturverein, is registered in Vienna (https://gay45.eu/impressum/), and the publication operates from Vienna and London (https://gay45.eu/mission-statement/).
  • Independent sources describe the 1993 magazine as Romania's first gay magazine and state that it published only two issues, so "one of the oldest continuous" is not supported.
  • Filo magazine in Poland predates it in the region, so "Eastern Europe's first" is also not supported.
  • The "various accolades" sentence is not supported by the cited source.

2. First sentence of the History section

• Current: "GAY45 was founded in [21 April 1993]] in Romania by Răzvan Ion, then a Dutch journalist."
• Proposed: "Gay 45 was founded in Bucharest on 21 April 1993 by Răzvan Ion, then a Dutch journalist."
• Reason: Fixes broken formatting and uses the magazine's original title for the 1993 period.

3. Infobox

• Country: change "Netherlands" to "Austria" (publisher registered in Vienna: https://gay45.eu/impressum/)
• Based in: change "Austria" to "Vienna and London" (https://gay45.eu/mission-statement/)
• Editor-in-chief: change "Jude Jones" to "Răzvan Ion" (https://gay45.eu/mission-statement/)
• Categories: change "Lifestyle" to "Politics, culture, investigative journalism" (https://gay45.eu/)
• Frequency: remove "Biweekly" (online publication)
• Circulation: remove "170,000" (unsourced)

4. Categories

• Please add , as the current publication is based in Vienna.

Thank you for your time. DrRazIon (talk) 12:12, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

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