Talk:Garden

Types of gardens

I'm curious as to the logic of removing lasagna gardens from the types of gardens. How do you differentiate between types and techniques? A squash garden could be considered a different type than a tomato garden. Also, a sacred garden or zen garden could obviously be grown, or arranged, for different reasons than a simple vegetable garden, and therefore considered different types. I see your point there. If you remove garden types because they are a technique, would you also need to remove square foot garden, rain garden, etc? After all, a rain garden could be the exact same style or 'type' as any other garden, however it is watered by rain collection rather than irrigation or some other means. Does that mean it is a different technique? I would think so. A square foot garden is just a small technique, no?

I think of a lasagna garden being a very different type of garden as the composition of the garden material is quite different than all other gardening types, much like hydroponic gardening.

Could you explain to me how you see the difference between type and technique when it comes to gardening, and whether or not lasagna gardening is considered a valid type?

Thanks! Richhersey (talk) 18:42, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

The distinction between types and techniques is perhaps not an absolute one, but I decided to remove your addition of 'Lasagna garden' from the list of types because it seemed to me to be primarily a technique which could be employed in many gardens. Also the term 'Lasagna gardening' currently redirects to Sheet mulching, which I wouldn't regard as a 'type' of garden. Some of the other entries under 'garden types' could perhaps also be removed. PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 19:52, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

Would it, perhaps, improve the page if both types and techniques were separated and listed? I can see your point, and perhaps Sheet mulching, Rain garden, and others should be listed under varying techniques, rather than removed. I think knowing about different gardening techniques certainly contributes to this article. Would you agree? Rich 20:11, 6 March 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Richhersey (talk • contribs)

This article is rather basic at the moment, and has potential to expand significantly, in which case including gardening techniques would make the article too long, in my view. I think it would be more logical and apposite to place techniques within the Gardening article - which I notice also has a 'Types' section, just to blur things even more... Both articles probably need a bit of attention to ensure information is in the most appropriate place. PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 21:02, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

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Hello, I just wanted to let everyone know that I am a student and am task with the assignment of editing an article and was just going to do some copy edits and structural edits. I agree with most of your comments and understand to be careful between the fine line of garden and gardening. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hreynolds16 (talk • contribs) 16:45, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

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Could do with some clarity

This article seems like a great canvas for a more in depth article. A cited method for partitioning different garden types may help with the layout of the article. Some sections, such as environmental impact, feel vague and potentially misleading. It may be beneficial to edit these sections with more concrete writing. Pilimai10 (talk) 05:03, 13 March 2025 (UTC)

Add references

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The earliest recorded Chinese gardens were created in the valley of the Yellow River, during the Shang dynasty (1600–1046 BC).

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This peer-reviewed journal article provides a historical overview of the origins of Chinese classical gardens. It identifies the formation period of such gardens as beginning in the era of the Shang, Zhou, Qin, and Han dynasties—placing the initial emergence of garden forms within the Shang dynasty in the Yellow River valley. The article discusses how these early gardens, influenced by social hierarchy and aristocratic demands, laid the foundation for the later development of garden aesthetics and design principles in China. Drawing on archaeological, anthropological, and historical research, the paper offers a scholarly framework for understanding the inception of Chinese gardens and their evolution over millennia.

URL: https://drpress.org/ojs/index.php/ijeh/article/view/1814/1734

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Early inscriptions from this period, carved on tortoise shells, have three Chinese characters for garden, you, pu and yuan.

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This source describes how early Chinese inscriptions—specifically those carved on tortoise shells during the Shang dynasty—revealed three distinct characters used to refer to different types of gardens. The character you denoted royal enclosures where birds and animals were kept; pu referred to gardens focused on plants; and yuan later became a general term encompassing all gardens. This explanation is grounded in historical-cultural context and provides a clear, functional distinction among early garden types, supporting your statement with credible narrative.

URL: https://kids.kiddle.co/Chinese_garden

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Another early royal garden was Shaqui, or the Dunes of Sand, built by the last Shang ruler, King Zhou (1075–1046 BC).

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The referenced chapter (“2. Classical Chinese Gardens”) notes that the earliest imperial garden—“Shaqiu Terrace” (沙丘苑台)—was built by King Zhou of the Shang dynasty, and explicitly gives his dates as 1675 BC – 1029 BC (not 1075–1046 BC). This corrects the date range in the Location sentence and identifies the site as an early royal garden used for entertainment and keeping many animals.

URL: https://raider.pressbooks.pub/chineseculture/chapter/2-classical-chinese-gardens/

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The earliest recorded Japanese gardens were the pleasure gardens of the Emperors and nobles.

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This site notes that the earliest documented Japanese gardens were indeed the pleasure gardens created for emperors and aristocrats, as recorded in the Nihon Shoki, Japan’s first written chronicle. It cites specific examples—such as Emperor Keikō keeping carp in a pond for enjoyment—that illustrate the early function of gardens as imperial recreational spaces. Drawing from primary historical texts, this reference serves as a credible, culturally grounded source for understanding the origins of Japanese gardens.

URL: https://www.japan-guide.com/e/e2099_types.html

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Gardening was not recognized as an art form in Europe until the mid‑16th century, when it entered the political discourse as a symbol of the concept of the "ideal republic."

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This academic source explores how in Renaissance Europe, the design and cultivation of gardens evolved from practical or botanical pursuits into a cultural and aesthetic endeavor imbued with political meaning. It highlights that by the mid‑16th century, gardens had begun to serve as metaphors for utopian ideals and the “ideal republic” in political and philosophical discourse. Gardens increasingly symbolized harmony, civic virtue, and moral order—reflecting broader shifts in how green spaces were conceived within political and ideological frameworks of the time. This interpretation is grounded in cultural history and garden studies, making the source a credible scholarly support for your statement.

URL: https://www.academia.edu/32313414/Introduction_Locus_amoenus_gardens_and_horticulture_in_the_Renaissance Jaroslav Radomír (talk) 07:39, 23 August 2025 (UTC)