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Latest comment: 7 years ago by Xact in topic Erroneous indication

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There is a much more in-depth examination of the word "Gandvik", from the Russian side, over here (can be translated with babelfish). The name "Gandvik" gradually shifted from meaning the entire (known) north sea, to just the white sea, to a section of the white sea, to the Kandalaksha Gulf ("Кандалакшская губа"). Esn 07:02, 22 March 2007 (UTC)Reply

Erroneous indication

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It is rather obvious that Gandvik has not one location, but when referring to the source Fundinn Noregr, even if most scholars say something else, the text itself clearly states that Gandvik is now called Helsingjabotn, what the Icelanders who are most connected with the Norse language, still call Gulf of Bothnia. It is the very beginning of the saga:

FORNJÓTR hefir konungr heitit. Hann réð fyrir Jótlandi, er kallat er Finnland ok Kvenland. Þat er fyrir austan hafsbotn þann, er gengr til móts við Gandvík; þat köllum vér Helsingjabotn. Encountering the Norways.

The majority of scholars refered to in the article, per date, holding that the Gandvik of this particular source - Encountering the Norways / Fundinn Noregr - is refering to the White Sea, do obviously not know Norse, nor any of it's modern derivations. This particular saga, without doubt, identifies Gandvik with the Gulf of Bothnia, it doesn't mean that Gandvik may also have been identified with either a location by the White Sea, or the Gulf of Finland. There is in present times, without doubt, a place in the Varangerfjord called Gandvik. --Xact (talk) 15:43, 4 October 2018 (UTC)Reply

Erroneous indication

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It is rather obvious that Gandvik has not one location, but when referring to the source Fundinn Noregr, even if most scholars say something else, the text itself clearly states that Gandvik is now called Helsingjabotn, what the Icelanders who are most connected with the Norse language, still call Gulf of Bothnia. It is the very beginning of the saga:

FORNJÓTR hefir konungr heitit. Hann réð fyrir Jótlandi, er kallat er Finnland ok Kvenland. Þat er fyrir austan hafsbotn þann, er gengr til móts við Gandvík; þat köllum vér Helsingjabotn. Where the Norways began

The majority of scholars refered to in the article, per date, holding that the Gandvik of this particular source - Encountering the Norways / Fundinn Noregr - is refering to the White Sea, do obviously not know Norse, nor any of it's modern derivations. This particular saga, without doubt, identifies Gandvik with the Gulf of Bothnia, it doesn't mean that Gandvik may also have been identified with either a location by the White Sea, or the Gulf of Finland. There is in present times, without doubt, a place in the Varangerfjord called Gandvik. --Xact (talk) 15:42, 4 October 2018 (UTC)Reply