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"King John Gabion/Gabious"

Hello all- The above names are given in this article as the inventor of the gabion, but there is no reference, and a quick search I just made comes up with no such historical figure. Anyone know about this? Eric ^talk 16:06, 27 May 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, it's either a hoax, or vandalism. Nuked. Anmccaff (talk) 16:50, 27 May 2016 (UTC)

Oh, man, I wasn't paying enough attention to spot how recent that material was, d'oh! Thanks! Eric ^talk 18:28, 27 May 2016 (UTC)

No chahhhge. (Why yes, I am a NewEnglanduh; howdja guess?) I don't think any damage was done; the fake surfaced briefly with a single Google hit, and has disappeared since. Anmccaff (talk) 19:10, 27 May 2016 (UTC)

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Fifty-year lifetime compared with 1961 installation?

The main web page says that gabions were "completed from 1957 to 1965 on North River, Virginia and Zealand River, New Hampshire". Note 6, substantiating this, was from 1961. The main web page suggests a 50-year ["structural consistency of 50 years"] lifetime. Have these gabions thus disintegrated? If so, are there any web links to this falling-down-ness? Enquiring [inquiring?] mind[s] [mostly mine] wish to understand this issue. Should I attempt to communicate with someone in Virginia or New Hampshire about this? If so, with with whom do you recommend that I initiate my query? Any assistance would be appreciated. CaptainSleaze (talk) 03:31, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

Advantages

Why are gabions be used in preference to other materials, e.g. concrete or brick? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 143.159.200.25 (talk) 16:45, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

• Easier to transport: You just make the shell -- open-ended baskets, from the 16th century on; wire cages, nowadays -- in a factory, and then fill them up with actual material much closer to the site (some local quarry nowadays; earth you dug up where you stood in the 1500s). Saves on hauling all the heavy stuff.
• Flexible and porous: The material inside the cages may shift around a bit, but that saves it from breaking as it would if it were one solid piece. The shifting may actually be the desired behaviour, as for wave-breakers or impact-absorbers along roads.

Both of the above points are actually in the article. When one wants to understand some text, it often helps to read it first. -- CRConrad (talk) 13:31, 27 June 2025 (UTC)

There is no San Marco Castle in Milan

The page previously claimed Leonardo da Vinci designed a gabion for the foundations of the "San Marco Castle" in Milan. There's no such castle. The link went to San Marco, Castellabate which is a village in the south of Italy nowhere near Milan. Leonardo did work on Sforza Castle in Milan:

One of Leonardo's first major commissions at the castle was the redesign of its defensive moat system — at Ludovico's request in 1482. His notebooks from this period contain detailed hydraulic studies, moat geometry calculations, and designs for defensive outworks that were never fully built but that show him thinking deeply about the problem

— https://www.sforzacastletours.com/blog/leonardo-da-vinci-sforza-castle/

The original source was a commercial web page for a Belgian company that sells gabions, and its stated source for the claim is French Wikipedia.

I've found a new source, an article in Architectural Digest that makes the same claim about Leonardo inventing "Corbeille Leonard"s, but this time for Sforza Castle in Milan. ~2026-36106-65 (talk) 14:24, 8 July 2026 (UTC)