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Latest comment: 2 months ago by Spintendo in topic updates to outdated information

New Page!!

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I'm the founder of Free Law Project, and I just created this page, so there's a likelihood of bias here. I did my best to keep things neutral and to the facts. The reason that I created the page was because I discovered that this page redirected to the page for Ravel Law. This is because Ravel Law is working with Harvard Law School on the Free the Law Project (an unrelated project with a very similar name). So, it seems, a well-meaning person set up Free Law Project to redirect to Ravel. I looked into deleting the redirect altogether, but discovered that there are a few things within Wikipedia linking here already (including a template), and those pages are attempting to link to Free Law Project (the non-profit, not the Harvard initiative). Also, looking at the page for deleting redirections, it's suggested to Be Bold and convert redirections to pages if it makes sense to do so. It seemed better to me to satisfy the inbound links and add information to the world by writing an article about Free Law Project.

I'm happy to discuss further, but I'd be even happier if other people fleshed out this page further, beyond what I felt comfortable doing as the director of the organization.--mjlissner (talk) 19:11, 21 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

Added COI tag above: "{{connected contributor|Mjlissner|declared=yes}}<!--- below-->"

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The above text, plus the fact that without the LATimes I'm about to add, 4 of the 5 article citations are from the FREE.LAW site! Nuts240 (talk) 20:18, 21 November 2022 (UTC)Reply

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The about-to-be-merged contents of [[RECAP]], which is a redirect to [[Recap (software)]] mentions that Center for Information Technology Policy has migrated to FREE.LAW (which is FREE LAW PROJECT's site. Nuts240 (talk) 20:59, 21 November 2022 (UTC)Reply

"FreeListener.com" listed at Redirects for discussion

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An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect FreeListener.com and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 January 7 § FreeListener.com until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. signed, Rosguill talk 04:55, 7 January 2023 (UTC)Reply

Some corrections

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  • Specific text to be added or removed:
    200 United States courts and administrative bodies
    +
    over 2,000 courts
  • Reason for the change: The information in the article is out of date.
  • References supporting change: https://free.law/datasets
  • Specific text to be added or removed:
    900,000 minutes of oral argument recordings, more than eight thousand judges, and more than three million opinions
    +
    more than 3 million minutes of oral argument recordings, more than sixteen thousand judges, and more than ten million opinions
  • Reason for the change: The information in the article is out of date.
  • References supporting change: https://www.courtlistener.com/help/coverage/
  • Specific text to be added or removed:
    Court Listener
    +
    CourtListener
  • Reason for the change: The correct name does not include a space.
  • References supporting change: https://free.law/projects/courtlistener
  • Specific text to be added or removed:
    RECAP Project
    +
    RECAP Suite
  • Reason for the change: This is the correct way to refer to the product.
  • References supporting change: https://free.law/recap
  • Specific text to be added or removed:
    more than 400 legal reporters
    +
    nearly 1,000 legal reporters
  • Reason for the change: The information in the article is out of date.
  • References supporting change: https://free.law/datasets#reporters-db
  • Specific text to be added or removed:
    RECAP is available as a Mozilla Firefox add-on, Google Chrome extension, and Safari extension
    +
    RECAP is available as a Mozilla Firefox add-on, Google Chrome extension, Microsoft Edge, and Safari extension
  • Reason for the change: RECAP is also available as a Microsoft Edge extension.
  • References supporting change: https://free.law/recap/

St-flp (talk) 00:27, 11 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

Not done: All of your sources are from the Free Law Project. Please review Wikipedia's policy on independent sources. - Otherwise (Talk?) 04:56, 1 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
Thank you for the feedback. Third party sources:
- for the update of the typo "Court Listener" to "CourtListener," please see: https://guides.loc.gov/free-case-law/courtlistener-and-caselaw-access-project
- for the update of "RECAP Project" to "RECAP Suite," please see: https://libguides.law.berkeley.edu/c.php?g=1390873&p=10288447
- for the update of browsers that includes Microsoft Edge, please see: https://libguides.law.berkeley.edu/c.php?g=1390873&p=10288447 St-flp (talk) 02:02, 18 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

request to remove inaccurate information

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  • Specific text to be added or removed:
    The original RECAP implementation uploaded documents to the Internet Archive; as of late 2017, the Free Law Project version now uploads documents to the Free Law Project, with a promise to mirror that data to the Internet Archive on a quarterly basis.
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  • Reason for the change: This is not and has never been accurate.
  • References supporting change: https://free.law/recap

St-flp (talk) 22:46, 12 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

Done - Otherwise (Talk?) 04:59, 1 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

requested updates

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  • Specific text to be added or removed:
    CourtListener is an open source software project to archive and host court documents.
    +
    CourtListener is an open source software project to archive and host court documents. The archive is fully searchable, and includes repositories of opinions, oral arguments, judges and judicial financial records, and federal filings. Alerts can be set for users who want to monitor mentions of topics, people, companies, citations, and more. APIs and database replication are available for developers.
  • Reason for the change: To provide a bit more information on CourtListener.
  • References supporting change: https://free.law/projects/courtlistener and https://www.courtlistener.com/help/api/
  • Specific text to be added or removed: In the "Initiatives" section, add another initiative called Bots.law. “Bots.law, which sends updates on the curator’s chosen cases to Bluesky.” Link: https://bots.law/
  • Reason for the change: To provide a bit more information on popular initiatives.
  • References supporting change: https://free.law/
  • Specific text to be added or removed:
    provides free access to primary legal materials, develops legal research tools, and supports academic research on legal corpora.
    +
    provides free access to primary legal materials, develops legal research tools, supports academic research on legal corpora, and advocates for policy change.
  • Reason for the change: To provide more context on the work of Free Law Project.
  • References supporting change: https://free.law/
  • Specific text to be added or removed:
    RECAP is software which allows users to automatically search for free copies
    +
    RECAP is crowdsourcing software which allows users to automatically search for free copies
  • Reason for the change: To clarify how the database was built.
  • References supporting change: https://www.courtlistener.com/help/coverage/recap/

St-flp (talk) 22:47, 12 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

Not done for now: Some of the requested changes are currently written in a promotional tone. Please review WP:Neutral point of view and make changes where appropriate to follow this before reopening the request. - Otherwise (Talk?) 04:57, 1 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
Hello, thank you for the feedback.
- We believe the fact that RECAP is crowdsourced is informative, rather than promotional. It is mentioned on this law library's site: https://law.tamu.libguides.com/c.php?g=1429832&p=10610419
- We believe the fact that advocacy is core to the work of Free Law Project is informative, rather than promotional. Some of the policy changes we advocate for are mentioned on this government site (“legislation to make PACER free…” etc.) https://guides.loc.gov/free-case-law/courtlistener-and-caselaw-access-project St-flp (talk) 23:19, 18 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
For the requested change:
"The archive is fully searchable, and includes repositories..."
You can confirm these statements on Berkeley Law: https://libguides.law.berkeley.edu/c.php?g=1192376&p=8722260
The Berkeley Law page states:
- "Court Listener is the Free Law Project's fully-searchable online archive of legal opinions, federal court filings, judge analytics and judicial financial records, plus millions of minutes of oral argument recordings. This website provides an easy keyword or citation search on the home page as well as a structured Advanced Search function."
- "In addition, users can set alerts for mentions of certain topics, people, companies, citations, and more."
- "Of interest for developers, this project offers APIs and database replication." St-flp (talk) 19:29, 24 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

updates to outdated information

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St-flp (talk) 01:47, 19 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

more updates requested

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St-flp (talk) 19:44, 24 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

Reply 22-MAY-2026

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  Unable to implement  

  • Your edit request could not be implemented because the provided references are not formatted correctly. The citation style predominantly used by the Free Law Project article is Citation Style 1 (CS1). The citation style used in the edit request consists of bare URL's.[a] Any requested edit of yours which may be implemented will need to resemble the current style already in use in the article – in this case, CS1. (See WP:CITEVAR.) In the extended section below titled Citation style, I have illustrated two examples: one showing how the edit request was submitted, and another showing how requests should be submitted in the future:
  • Kindly resubmit the edit request below at your earliest convenience, taking care to ensure that it makes use of CS1. If you have any questions about this formatting please don't hesitate to ask myself or another editor. Regards,  Spintendo  07:28, 22 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

Notes

  1. The use of bare URLs as references is a style which is acceptable for use in Wikipedia. However, general practice dictates that the style already in use for an article be the one that is subsequently used for all future additions unless changed by editorial consensus.[1]

References

  1. "WP:CITEVAR - Wikipedia:Citing sources". Wikipedia. 20 October 2018. Retrieved 22 October 2018. Guideline: It is normal practice to defer to the style used by the first major contributor or adopted by the consensus of editors already working on the page, unless a change in consensus has been achieved. If the article you are editing is already using a particular citation style, you should follow it.