Talk:Fourth Doctor

Audios

Why do we list every audio the Fourth Doctor appears in when there's a box at the end for that? Not to mention that most of the full-cast (i.e. starring Tom Baker) ones are referred to as "story relayed by 4th Doctor" when that's not the case. Only the ones with narration by a character should get that moniker. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.11.108.74 (talk) 12:13, 4 August 2017 (UTC)

Recognisable and iconic

MarnetteD Thought it'd be best to take it here. Which term is the US term? Iconic? Concerning iconic, the term is mentioned two other times in the article, primarily in relation to Four's scarf. -- Alex^TW 22:06, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

Okey doke AlexTheWhovian. Through the 80s he was a fave here in the US but the statement still reads hyperbolic to my eyes O_O - heehee. I can't find anything in this article about his being "iconic" in the UK though so that should either be sourced or removed. I know there was criticism (some of it at the time) of the Graham Williams years and there was even a book going into detail about that written in the early to mid 80's. Unfortunately, its name escapes me at the moment and my copy is in storage. Does it ring any bells for you? MarnetteD|Talk 22:23, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

Hi again ATW. I should add that the items are you refer to mention the scarf as iconic not the 4th Dr. Thus my concerns about the hyperbole nature of the statement in the lede. Please don't get me wrong - I lived through it :-) It read like fan speak when it should be more encyclopedic. MarnetteD|Talk 22:46, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

Unfortunately it doesn't, sorry. We should tweak the sentence... How about He was considered to be the most recognisable incarnation of the Doctor, with his iconic costume, both in the United Kingdom and internationally.? -- Alex^TW 17:45, 28 January 2018 (UTC)

Well, the line should read "is considered..." anyway, but I'm sure new DW fans might argue perhaps David Tennant, so I would suggest the sentence is taken out completely.Tuzapicabit (talk) 23:40, 28 January 2018 (UTC)

We should be looking at the series as a whole, and not simply pander to the newer fans. The classic era exists as well. -- Alex^TW 23:45, 28 January 2018 (UTC)

There is no sourced mention of iconography in the UK in the article. As to "international" only the US and Italy are mentioned and the Italian item states that his episodes were the only ones seen. So, again, as it currently reads it is hyperbole. I would be fine with removing the sentence as well but it should at least be shortened to fit the referenced info in the article. 23:52, 28 January 2018 (UTC)

Tenure start date

The infobox lists the Fourth Doctor's tenure as starting on 8 June 1974, the date he appeared in the final episode of Planet of the Spiders. For internal consistency within the infobox, and to match the table at The Doctor (Doctor Who) § Actors, I think the date should be 28 December 1974, when the first episode of Robot aired.--Trystan (talk) 18:27, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

There has been some back and forth over this over the years. At the article you link to the start date is when the took on the lead role as the Dr. However, at the individual Dr articles it has been their first onscreen appearance. This inconsistency can be confusing. You might try asking at the Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Doctor Who to see if a new consensus can be formed. MarnetteD|Talk 18:55, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

"Would you like a Jelly Baby?" listed at Redirects for discussion

The redirect Would you like a Jelly Baby? has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 March 24 § Would you like a Jelly Baby? until a consensus is reached. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 01:12, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

Potential copyright free image

Under US law, images are in the public domain if they are "published in the United States between 1931 and 1977, inclusive, without a copyright notice."

http://www.dwasonline.co.uk/node/898?cat=node/897

These cards were published in the "late 70s" (only in the UK though afaik), and the website doesn't show the other side of them, so I don't know if they included a copyright notice. So possibly they could be used as an alternative to the current infobox image (and used on other Doctor Who-related pages).

As another note, there must be at least some Doctor Who merchandise/branding etc which was published in the US between those years without a copyright notice. So I think there may be an untapped wealth of public domain DW images which could be used on Wikipedia. Just a thought. SkywalkerEccleston (talk) 06:26, 6 June 2026 (UTC)