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Latest comment: 1 year ago by 2A00:23C8:A012:FD01:7C23:C611:DD37:2503 in topic Need for reconsideration?

I think the Hibs and Renton matches stand up to scrutiny as they were top clubs who had called them world club cups beforehand.

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Somebody needs to work out whether the first was in 1886 or 1887, and whether the result was Aston Villa 3-1 Hibernian at Perry Barr in Birmingham on 9 April 1887 or Hibernian 2-1 Preston North End at Hibernian Park in Edinburgh on 13 August 1887. There were many more matches between a Scottish club and an English club then and earlier. 2A00:23C7:7B18:9600:294F:C473:FD54:66A2 (talk) 09:01, 28 June 2021 (UTC)Reply

Yeah its a bit of a mess there. Seems there was more explanation of it until recently when info was removed due to being sourced to a Wikipedia mirror site of the match articles. But that doesn't mean that the info itself was wrong. I'll have a look at each of these, and hopefully the Glasgow Herald (which has a free archive) or The Scotsman (via the London Hearts website) will have some decent descriptions which will help to clarify these issues properly. Crowsus (talk) 10:32, 28 June 2021 (UTC)Reply

Need for reconsideration?

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This article appears to be original research - it is bringing together the results of various friendly matches between the top English and Scottish sides. None of them was considered a world championship, other than the Renton v West Brom match. It's all very interesting but it is putting 20th century views on 19th century football. E.g. nobody thought of "home and home" friendlies as 2 legs of the same competition. Even the Renton claim is dubious given they commissioned their own cup after their annus mirabilis. In Vitrio (talk) 23:22, 20 July 2022 (UTC)Reply

the Renton one is the most true. 2A00:23C8:A012:FD01:7C23:C611:DD37:2503 (talk) 19:49, 19 July 2025 (UTC)Reply