Talk:Food storage

Overall, article is simplistic

This article makes a lot of unqualified statements about how long foods are good for, which are at best simplistic and at worst wrong. E.g.: "However, if meat or animal ingredients such as fats or butter have been added to the vegetables during cooking, they should be eaten within 4 days if they are refrigerated; they can be safely frozen for 6 months." This is wrong because it implies that these foods will become inedible at the 4-day and 6-month marks, respectively, and that is of course patently false. The amount of time relevant here is not going to be a precise one. The language could be changed to be less exact, maybe by adding "about", or ideally an expert could comment on the amount of time it takes different classes of foods to degrade in different storage conditions. My impression is that foods will generally become unpalatable before becoming dangerous to eat when frozen, etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.57.140.195 (talk) 16:35, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

Added some more detailed info from some reliable sources, like the USDA guidelines for refrigeration. The impression that foods look or smell spoiled before becoming dangerous, is incorrect -- that's why so many people become ill from things like salmonella and E. coli due to not handling meat safely or keeping kitchen surfaces clean. I once had salmonella, from chicken served at a banquet. Lots of people got sick, but the chicken actually tasted pretty good. X-: OttawaAC (talk) 23:05, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

Pork

I find the statement in this page that "pork must be eaten within one day" slightly peculiar. Pork (apparently, I'm not a butcher) should be hung for a period after slaughter, if only to drain off the blood.

Yes Pork , in common with all other meats, must be drained of blood , but this only takes a few minutes. The difference between Pork and many other meats such as Beef, Venison, Horse and all the game birds such as Pheasant, Grouse, Duck etc. is that these latter meats are often hung for a period of up to 5 or 6 days in a chill room for the meat to age or mature . This develops tenderness and taste and allows some prime cuts to be eaten almost raw. Pork does not improve in this way and is also at significant risk of contamination with parasites most notably Ascarid worms and flukes. Hence the advice to cook and eat as soon as practicable - ageing pork gives no benefit but adds health risks. Velela (talk) 11:26, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Food storage containers

The above item redirects here, but here's nothing in the article on the subject (!!??). We're not talking shipping containers here, but the Rubbermaid, Tupperware, Pyrex etc. type of things. 76.97.245.5 (talk) 17:03, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Link fixed. New article stubbed. Velela  ^{Velela Talk}   22:46, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Use of stored food

The article says, whole grains and unpreserved foods are often much healthier than processed foods from the grocery store as well. However, the source citation doesn't say that processed foods are less healthy than whole grains, only that whole grains are healthy. Traal (talk) 20:20, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

I agree - I have re-written the paragraph to be less POV and slightly more global - not everyone has supermarkets or enjoys home-baked food. Velela  ^{Velela Talk}   20:38, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Use of hexagons in construction

Wouldn't a section or a new article regarding "Use of Hexagon's in construction" be useful ? Apparently, bees have chosen the hexagon since it requires less material than making i.e. the combs from triangles. Thus, it is still a very good construction shape i.e. when building storage cells (i.e. for food, ...) 91.182.241.204 (talk) 13:22, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

If you have reliably source information that hexagons are used by humans to store food, then please feel free to add it to the article, otherwise I suggest creating Food storage by insects.  Velella  ^{Velella Talk}   15:07, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

In history

Perhaps a History section can be added. Ie in Crete, the palace of Minos at Knossos had his entire western basement dedicated to food storage. They mostly used very large earthenware vases. ref= http://www.jiffynotes.com/a_study_guides/book_notes/aneu_02/aneu_02_00135.html

In addition, many other tradiditional cultures use food stores; ie in Mali (rooftop grain silo's I believe), and burial of food in the ground has also been practiced ie in France, and in other places throughout Europe some 2000 years ago. 91.182.138.185 (talk) 15:20, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

Hi, I am working here on a table of vegetable + fruit storage92.78.126.75 (talk) 18:03, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

Header text	airtight container	light moisture	loosely in a glass	Header text	Header text	Header text	Header text
Artichokes	yes	yes	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example
Asparagus	Example	Example	yes	Example	Example	Example	Example
Avocados	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example
Arugula	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example
Basil	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example
Beans, shelling	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example
Beets	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example
Beet greens	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example
Broccoli	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example
Broccoli Rabe	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example
Brussels Sprouts	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example
Cabbage	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example
Carrots	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example
Cauliflower	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example
Celery	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example
Celery root/Celeriac	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example
Corn	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example
Cucumber	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example
Eggplant	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example
Fava beans	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example
Fennel	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example
Garlic	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example
Green garlic	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example
Greens	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example
Green beans	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example
Green Tomatoes	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example
Herbs	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example
Lettuce	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example
Leeks	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example
Okra	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example
Onion	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example
Parsnips	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example
Potatoes	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example
Radicchio	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example
Radishes	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example
Rhubarb	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example
Rutabagas	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example
Snap peas	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example
Spinach	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example
Spring onions	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example
Summer Squash	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example
Sweet peppers	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example
Sweet Potatoes	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example
Tomatoes	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example
Turnips	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example
Winter squash	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example
Zucchini	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example	Example

Before doing too much work on your table, it might be worth looking to see if each entry can be reliably sourced. If not, it is likely to beome a "how to preserve vegetables" table and Wikipedia deprecates "how to do" text. Regards  Velella  ^{Velella Talk}   19:14, 29 June 2014 (UTC)