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Latest comment: 3 months ago by Narutolovehinata5 in topic Did you know nomination

Did you know nomination

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. Track your hook after promotion. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: rejected, closed by Narutolovehinata5 (talk) 07:29, 19 April 2026 (UTC)Reply

Flame graph from Wikimedia Foundation servers
Flame graph from Wikimedia Foundation servers
  • ... that flame graphs (pictured) made editing Wikipedia twice as fast?
    • Reviewed:
Created by Liance (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

~Liancetalk 19:19, 1 April 2026 (UTC).Reply

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: None required.

Overall: I think that this hook is great.

  1. The article is new; it was created and nominated today (April 1).
  2. The article's length is also good; it is not too short.
  3. The hook is neutral and does not contain subjective wording.
  4. There is no plagiarism in the hook, though the wording is close to the image caption in the article, though I think that is okay.
  5. The hook is cited to a reliable source from the Wikimedia Foundation itself.
  6. The hook is also interesting; it says that the flame graphs were used in an interesting way.
  7. The article is well sourced.
  8. I think the image has no copyright and I think the copyright is of a user.
  9. The image is used in the article (it is the first and only image of it).
  10. The image is also clear.

I think this is a really strong hook. –The Twists and Turns talk|my edits 19:58, 1 April 2026 (UTC)Reply

    Thanks so much for the quick review and feedback! ~Liancetalk 21:17, 1 April 2026 (UTC)Reply
    You're welcome! –The Twists and Turns talk|my edits 21:19, 1 April 2026 (UTC)Reply

    Promoter here, reviewing hooks for promotion. The review is invalid and this hook cannot go forward. The hook is not supported by the source, which doesn't say flame graphs made editing Wikipedia twice as fast. It says that its flame graph is one example of multiple "observability tools", which in turn is one of many factors in increasing the speed of page loading on Wikipedia. (Furthermore, is a Wikimedia Foundation engineer a reliable source on the performance of Wikipedia?) The hook's incorrect factoid appears in the article solely in a caption, not in the text of the article. The article relies on several self-published sources (, , ), as well as corporate blog posts or tech documentation (, , , , , , , ), which is a form of primary source. Articles that appear at DYK must be based on reliable sources. The sources also don't necessarily support the claims the article makes. For example, the statement Flame graphs have seen increases in popularity in the software industry isn't confirmed by any of the several citations at the end of that statement. Instead, it seems to be a form of original research in which the nominator has found several examples of tech company blogs that used a flame graph and used them to support the nominator's conclusion that flame graphs are becoming popular. The article is also too short at 1,493 characters (although that's easily remedied -- however, The Twists and Turns review should have caught that baseline eligibility issue). (Correction: the reviewed version was 1518 characters and it appears editing brought it below that level.) Liance, this is a lot to address and to get this approved you will probably need to rewrite the article to address the fact that so much of it is based on sources we can't use at DYK. You will also need to supply a new hook that's supported by an article you're using in the nomination. Thanks and let me know if you have questions. Dclemens1971 (talk) 00:53, 10 April 2026 (UTC)Reply

    • This nomination has many obstacles to promotion, and after nearly a week since being pinged about the issues, the nominator has not taken any action despite being active elsewhere on the project. I am marking for closure unless the nominator returns or someone else wishes to adopt the nomination. Dclemens1971 (talk) 01:14, 17 April 2026 (UTC)Reply