Talk:Five Suns

Xipe Totec or Tlaloc?

The first section of this article begins by listing the Four Tezcatlipocas as Quetzalcoatl, Huitzilopochtli, Xipe Totec, and Tezcatlipoca. However, in the rest of this section, he is apparently replaced by Tlaloc. The articles of the five deities so far named do not resolve this conflict. Tezcatlipoca's article states that Xipe Totec is one of the four, while Huitzilopochtli's and Quetzalcoatl's both name Tlaloc. Neither Tlaloc's nor Xipe Totec's article bears any mention of this myth, though Tlaloc's does contain reference to events which may be part of it. While the rest of the article seems to clarify that this is the result of there being several different versions of this myth, the fact remains that the first section seems to be mixing several, and the other articles add to this confusion. 007bistromath (talk) 12:41, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

The Four Tezcatlipocas is an old story. The Nahua tell it, the Aztecs told it, and the Toltecs told it. I was taught that the four Tezcatlipocas are Xipe Totec, Quetzalcoatl, Huitzilopochtli, and Tezcatlipoca. I have also heard versions with Xipe Totec or Mixcoatl, Quetzalcoatl, Tezcatlipoca, and Mictlantecuhtli or Tlaloc. Glass Egg 02 (talk) 05:29, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

Requested move

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The result of the debate was Move Duja► 09:57, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

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Aztec eschatology → Five Suns — The scope of this article is really about the entire concept of creation/destruction in late Postclassic central Mexican/Aztec mythologies, embodied by the more usual term "Five Suns", than (only) eschatology. As such a rename to Five Suns would be appropriate, but needs admin intervention to complete as the target is obstructed by prior edits. cjllw | TALK 07:27, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

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• Support, as and per nomination.--cjllw | TALK 07:28, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
• Support, for most common name.--Folksong 09:08, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
• Support as above. Aztec eschatology would make a good category. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 19:08, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

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the People of the Sun

We could add a reference to the song of RATM, no? --Ecureuil espagnol (talk) 09:17, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

I don't see why. People of the Sun is more about the EZLN, not Aztec cosmogeny. And I can't see that any disambiguation btw the two titles is needed. --cjllw ʘ TALK 00:10, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

physical plausibility

Could the myth be physical correct if: Big Bang (1st sun) → Supernova_1 (2nd sun) → Supernova_2 (3rd sun) → Supernova_3 (4th sun), 4.6 billion years ago → Our Sun (5th sun) 2.247.241.54 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 17:54, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

In-universe style

Parts of the article (especially the summary at the bottom) are written as if the events were factual. As I do not feel knowledgeable enough about the subject, and am not inclined to work on it, I have cruelly left this work for another editor, and cluttered up Wikipedia with tags. Balnibarbarian (talk) 13:24, 24 November 2022 (UTC)