Talk:Firewatch

Requested move 28 April 2016

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The result of the move request was: pages moved. Andrewa (talk) 04:14, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

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• Firewatch (video game) → Firewatch
• Firewatch → Firewatch (disambiguation)

– This page was moved to "Firewatch (video game)" on February 26, 2016 without discussion by User:SusanDDD in order to make way for a borderline advertisement page for FireWatch (ERP Software). Based on traffic stats, it's clear that the video game is the primary use of the term. SusanDDD has no editing activity outside of creating said software page and the company that made it, so it's possible that she is either a paid editor or COI but that's outside the purview of this RM. Axem Titanium (talk) 22:35, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

• Move I have never heard the term used other than to refer to the video game, and the ERP software's relevance is questionable. Pianoman320 (talk) 22:47, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
• Agree per arguments above ~ Dissident93 (talk) 23:52, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
• Oppose first we have always had a disambiguation page. It's difficult to follow what moves exactly related to the software have happened but that's no reason to put a new video game over firewatch. Question @Axem Titanium: @SusanDDD: @Pianoman320: @Dissident93: can someone say what percentage of the "firewatch" minus "fire watch" print book refs refer to the video game? I cannot find a single hit after flipping through the first few pages of results? Also seems to come up in journal titles:
• FireWatch, by Virginia Department of Forestry.
• Firewatch, by Arkansas Fire Academy.
• Firewatch, by National Association of Fire Equipment Distributors (U.S.)
• Campus Firewatch,
• FireWatch : a tribute to America's Bravest VHS 1996In ictu oculi (talk) 08:47, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

Alternatively redirect firewatch to the same place as fire watch and move disambiguation page to Firewatch (disambiguation)

The disambiguation page was originally at "Fire watch" before being moved to "Firewatch" in response to SusanDDD's changes. For whatever it's worth, "firewatch" is not a real word so a hatnote here referring to a dab page at "Fire watch" might be appropriate instead of using "(disambiguation)". Regardless, "Firewatch" has always held the video game article, until very recently, and there were no other such articles about other things called "Firewatch or "FireWatch". Axem Titanium (talk) 20:12, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

• Support: I don't recall the term Firewatch (without the space) is used in other articles. The journals listed above seem to be related to the actual fire watch rather than firewatch. (Is Firewatch even a word?) Most online hits are about the game as well. AdrianGamer (talk) 14:37, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
• Support per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. SSTflyer 15:25, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
• oppose WP:RECENTISM ; this word, without the space, has been used for decades as an alternate spelling of "firewatch", both eh militia and firefighting meanings -- 70.51.46.195 (talk) 08:01, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
  • WP:RECENTISM is an essay, not a policy or guideline. The fact that other things called Firewatch in the past never got their own articles calls into question whether it even matters that this article is recent. If you're arguing only for the dictionary definition, it belongs on Wiktionary, not here. Axem Titanium (talk) 14:50, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
• Support - per Axem's rationale. It's clearly the primary topic in the realm of Wikipedia articles. Sergecross73 msg me 23:06, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
• Support, and move proposed Firewatch (disambiguation) to Fire watch as well. Apart from the ERP, all other uses primarily use the variation without the space, thus this falls under WP:SMALLDETAILS (in addition to WP:PRIMARY). Satellizer el Bridget ^(Talk) 13:48, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
• Support as primary topic. -- ferret (talk) 14:07, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
• Support I agree that "fire watch" is the preferred version used by firefighters, not the space-free version, and as long as there's a hat to the disambiguation page, the move of this game to "Firewatch" is inline with naming conventions. --MASEM (t) 18:29, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
• Support per all of the above, noting also that recentism has been agreed upon as inapplicable to disambiguation issues. —Torchiest ^talk_edits 20:26, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

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Edit request

what is game rating,link source and I'll add it 209.35.70.101 (talk) 17:27, 1 November 2025 (UTC)

Retrospective review

I'm a little iffy on the addition of the AV Club review, just because the opinions expressed are pretty far out of pocket; at the very least, giving them an entire paragraph set aside seems like an undue weight issue. I'm going to look and see if there's any more retrospective coverage that makes sense to build a paragraph out of. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ^talk 21:47, 17 February 2026 (UTC)

@David Fuchs: I completely agree with the above, especially on the undue weight issue. There is no expectation that the game should engage with gender issues at all, or that it should have been written by someone of a different gender. Tanonero (msg) 19:02, 18 February 2026 (UTC)

genre of the game

this game is clearly a walking simulator and not an adventure game

I don't think it represents the genre Wikipedia claims it belongs to.

All adventure games must have a fail state, they are not puzzle games or walking simulators. There's also no immediate danger to the player or any obstacles you have get out of outside of jumping over a log or something

I would have changed the genre myself but I don't know how to link articles. Hell pikachu (talk) 08:37, 10 August 2026 (UTC)

I'm not sure where it's determined adventure games must have a fail state. It's not something discussed in our own topic. Beyond that, I see plenty of sources that describe it as an adventure game. Even those that discuss the fuzziness of video game genre, e.g. , do not treat adventure games and walking simulators as exclusive of each other; the "walking simulator" implies mechanics, while the "adventure" suggests themes and tone. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ^talk 13:12, 11 August 2026 (UTC)

Peer review

Firewatch

Previous peer review

This article last got a PR in advance of a successful GAN candidacy back in 2016. Ten years later I've gone through and done a somewhat substantial overhaul, with the aim of possibly reaching FA status, and would love feedback to that end across all aspects of the article. Thanks in advance. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ^talk 16:02, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

Comments from Mike Christie

After one read-through the main issue I see for FAC is the reception section. I think it needs another copyedit pass. The reception material is organized well enough, but the sentence-by-sentence flow is a bit clunky in a couple of paragraphs.

I'll have another read through the article with an eye to FAC some time in the next couple of days. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 07:53, 30 September 2026 (UTC)

• "Henry interacts with his supervisor Delilah using a walkie-talkie, with the player choosing from dialog options to communicate. His exchanges with Delilah inform the process by which their relationship is developed". Suggest "Henry interacts with his supervisor Delilah using a walkie-talkie, choosing what to say from dialog options, and developing his relationship with her".
• "certain events are set at different times of the day": perhaps "certain events are set to occur at different times of the day" or just "certain events occur at different times of the day". Now I think about it I'm not even sure of the intended meaning -- I think it must be that there are some events that repeat every day at set times? Rather than at varying times, which is how I initially read "different"?
• "the cause of the station fire": is this the fire near the government camp? The word "station" has not been used for it.
• "In creating the painting, Moss emulated National Park Service posters from the New Deal era in both color palette and iconography.". The source does not support this for the color palette.
• "Ng disapproved of the tools for creating trees and therefore hand-modeled the 23 kinds of trees that would be placed within the game 4,600 times." The source has "Ng noted that she didn’t get on well with automated tree making tools, so created the 23 different models in the game by hand.". This is tricky to paraphrase but I think this is a bit too close to the original. (And let's avoid implying there were exactly 4,600 trees when the source is less precise.
• And the next sentence, about a custom shader, is also somewhat similar to the original, but also slightly inaccurate -- the source specifies that it's how the trees look in the distance to the player that drove this choice; the article doesn't say this.
• "Likewise Dahlia could not inform the player...": typo for Delilah?

More to come. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 00:59, 1 October 2026 (UTC)